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Nadine, the other process, you didn't

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Nadine, the other process, you didn't
 

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Nadine, the other process, you didn't
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have to prove it was safe. In fact, you
 

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have to prove it was safe. In fact, you
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didn't even have to submit your safety
 

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didn't even have to submit your safety
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data to get approval. Can I say that
 

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data to get approval. Can I say that
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Well, good day everybody and welcome

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Well, good day everybody and welcome
 

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Well, good day everybody and welcome
back to the show. Today's guest, uh, MP

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back to the show. Today's guest, uh, MP
 

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back to the show. Today's guest, uh, MP
for Niagara West, uh, MP Dean Allison,

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for Niagara West, uh, MP Dean Allison,
 

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for Niagara West, uh, MP Dean Allison,
and of course, lawyer Sean Buckley.

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and of course, lawyer Sean Buckley.
 

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and of course, lawyer Sean Buckley.
Today we're going to discuss the Allison

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Today we're going to discuss the Allison
 

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Today we're going to discuss the Allison
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inquiry which for some people is
 

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inquiry which for some people is
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becoming a little bit of a hot topic.
 

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becoming a little bit of a hot topic.
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And so with further ado, I am going to
invite our guests to the show. Hello

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invite our guests to the show. Hello
 

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invite our guests to the show. Hello
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gentlemen.
 

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gentlemen.
>> Hello.

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>> Hello.
 

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>> Hello.
>> Hey Nadine, good to be on.

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>> Hey Nadine, good to be on.
 

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>> Hey Nadine, good to be on.
>> Good to see you again. And Dean, so

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>> Good to see you again. And Dean, so
 

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>> Good to see you again. And Dean, so
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appreciative that you took the time
 

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appreciative that you took the time
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today to join us. So thank you very
 

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today to join us. So thank you very
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much.
>> Great to be here. Thanks for inviting

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>> Great to be here. Thanks for inviting
 

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>> Great to be here. Thanks for inviting
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me.
 

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me.
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>> Wonderful. Now, I I want to jump right
 

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>> Wonderful. Now, I I want to jump right
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in because I know we've got a little bit
 

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in because I know we've got a little bit
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of a constraint on our time and um you
 

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of a constraint on our time and um you
guys have decided to invite witnesses to

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guys have decided to invite witnesses to
 

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guys have decided to invite witnesses to
talk and discuss the COVID vaccine

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talk and discuss the COVID vaccine
 

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talk and discuss the COVID vaccine
injured. Now, I want to talk quickly

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injured. Now, I want to talk quickly
 

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injured. Now, I want to talk quickly
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because I don't think that a lot of
 

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because I don't think that a lot of
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people um want necessarily to bring this
 

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people um want necessarily to bring this
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up to the surface. people inside who
 

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up to the surface. people inside who
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have been injured obviously need a voice
 

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have been injured obviously need a voice
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uh on their behalf, but there's doctors
 

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uh on their behalf, but there's doctors
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that have been silenced. There's a lot
 

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that have been silenced. There's a lot
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of fear around this. People the media is
 

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of fear around this. People the media is
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painting this as kind of an antivaccine
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campaign. So much going on. So would you
 

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campaign. So much going on. So would you
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start um Dean with perhaps what it is
 

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start um Dean with perhaps what it is
the Allison inquiry is and what it's

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the Allison inquiry is and what it's
 

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the Allison inquiry is and what it's
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not?
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>> Sure. And and once again, thanks for
having us on the show today. You know, I

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having us on the show today. You know, I
 

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having us on the show today. You know, I
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there's two things that two functions of
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a member of parliament. One is to
 

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a member of parliament. One is to
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listen. There's more, but two things
 

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listen. There's more, but two things
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that we definitely do is one, we listen
 

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that we definitely do is one, we listen
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to people's concerns. They come into our
 

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to people's concerns. They come into our
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office every day to talk about a variety
 

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office every day to talk about a variety
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of issues. The second one is to actually
 

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of issues. The second one is to actually
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help them access government programs.
 

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help them access government programs.
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And so for the last number of years and
for the last 22 years since I've been

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for the last 22 years since I've been
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elected, that's exactly what I do. And
 

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elected, that's exactly what I do. And
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you know, I was noticing challenges
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around COVID when they came out and
 

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around COVID when they came out and
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people's didn't want to get vaccinated,
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but they were having challenges, as
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you're well aware, being able to go to
 

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you're well aware, being able to go to
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work or travel, etc., etc. And then
 

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work or travel, etc., etc. And then
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let's fast forward not even that far,
 

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let's fast forward not even that far,
but after that, uh, people that had

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but after that, uh, people that had
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gotten vaccinated were actually some of
 

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gotten vaccinated were actually some of
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them were getting injured and those same
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people or maybe even different people
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reaching out to me. And so as my job as
 

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reaching out to me. And so as my job as
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a member of parliament is to listen to
these stories. People were calling me,

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these stories. People were calling me,
 

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these stories. People were calling me,
texting me, emailing me, uh leaving

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texting me, emailing me, uh leaving
 

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texting me, emailing me, uh leaving
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voicemails from all across this country.
 

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voicemails from all across this country.
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and visiting various different places in
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this country, I would people would reach
 

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this country, I would people would reach
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out to me. So I just thought, you know
 

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out to me. So I just thought, you know
what I find strange and what's happened

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over the last number of years is that
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there's a real reluctance to talk about
 

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there's a real reluctance to talk about
this in the public space. you just you

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this in the public space. you just you
 

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this in the public space. you just you
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kind of alluded to that in your opening
 

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kind of alluded to that in your opening
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remarks and I thought and I've been
 

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remarks and I thought and I've been
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thinking about it for a number of years.
 

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thinking about it for a number of years.
I've been thinking why can we not

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I've been thinking why can we not
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actually have these conversations? Why
 

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actually have these conversations? Why
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can we not have these conversations
 

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can we not have these conversations
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publicly? Number one, and number two,
 

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publicly? Number one, and number two,
why can we not actually try and put

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why can we not actually try and put
 

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why can we not actually try and put
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pressure on the government to do a
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better job with the vaccine injury
 

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better job with the vaccine injury
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support program? As you're probably
 

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support program? As you're probably
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aware, again, maybe your listeners are
or they're not. You know, over $55

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or they're not. You know, over $55
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million was contributed to a vaccine
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injury support program of which $35
 

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injury support program of which $35
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million was spent on overhead and only a
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third, think about that, only a third of
 

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third, think about that, only a third of
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those dollars actually went to the
 

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those dollars actually went to the
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vaccine injured people. And by the
 

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vaccine injured people. And by the
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government's own numbers, we have almost
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60,000 people registered as injured in
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this country. 11,000 seriously, 3,500
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applied to the program. 3,000 were
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accepted, but only 252. So less than
 

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accepted, but only 252. So less than
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point4 of a percent of people injured in
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this country are actually receiving any
 

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this country are actually receiving any
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type of compensation. I just feel that's
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completely and totally unacceptable. So
 

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completely and totally unacceptable. So
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when we lost the ability to actually
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talk to people in committee uh this was
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actually something that the committee
the health committee was going to look

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the health committee was going to look
 

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the health committee was going to look
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at and after we had a few of our members
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walk the floor we lost the ability to
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could then force this as a conversation
 

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could then force this as a conversation
and committee. I said, "Well, there's

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and committee. I said, "Well, there's
 

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and committee. I said, "Well, there's
going to be no time like the president

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going to be no time like the president
 

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going to be no time like the president
to be able to have this conversation

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to be able to have this conversation
 

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to be able to have this conversation
because this conversation should happen

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because this conversation should happen
 

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because this conversation should happen
in parliament." It's not. And so, the

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in parliament." It's not. And so, the
 

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in parliament." It's not. And so, the
next best thing is why don't we have a

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next best thing is why don't we have a
 

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next best thing is why don't we have a
town hall? Why don't we have our own

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town hall? Why don't we have our own
 

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town hall? Why don't we have our own
inquiry? Why don't we invite people to

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inquiry? Why don't we invite people to
 

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inquiry? Why don't we invite people to
Ottawa to be able to do that? And so,

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Ottawa to be able to do that? And so,
 

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Ottawa to be able to do that? And so,
this is where uh Sean and Theresa

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this is where uh Sean and Theresa
 

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this is where uh Sean and Theresa
Buckley came in. They were visiting me

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Buckley came in. They were visiting me
 

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Buckley came in. They were visiting me
last October, so prior to some of the

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last October, so prior to some of the
 

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last October, so prior to some of the
the us losing our majority in the House.

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the us losing our majority in the House.
 

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the us losing our majority in the House.
And I, like I said, this this is a

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And I, like I said, this this is a
 

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And I, like I said, this this is a
feeling that just has been with me for

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feeling that just has been with me for
 

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feeling that just has been with me for
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the last two or three years that I
 

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the last two or three years that I
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haven't been able to shake. And so I
 

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haven't been able to shake. And so I
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broached the the topic casually with
 

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broached the the topic casually with
Sean and Teresa and said like I know

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Sean and Teresa and said like I know
 

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Sean and Teresa and said like I know
you're involved with this thing called

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you're involved with this thing called
 

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you're involved with this thing called
the NCI, the National Citizens Inquiry.

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the NCI, the National Citizens Inquiry.
 

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the NCI, the National Citizens Inquiry.
Like what are the possibility of us

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Like what are the possibility of us
 

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Like what are the possibility of us
being able to do that? And we had a lot

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being able to do that? And we had a lot
 

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being able to do that? And we had a lot
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of dialogue over like probably almost
 

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of dialogue over like probably almost
six months before we actually made the

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six months before we actually made the
 

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six months before we actually made the
decision to do anything because I was

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decision to do anything because I was
 

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decision to do anything because I was
trying to weigh, you know, I'm going to

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trying to weigh, you know, I'm going to
 

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trying to weigh, you know, I'm going to
take a lot of flack for this. What's

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take a lot of flack for this. What's
 

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take a lot of flack for this. What's
going to happen? you know, where where

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going to happen? you know, where where
 

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going to happen? you know, where where
am I going to end up? And you know, am

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am I going to end up? And you know, am
 

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am I going to end up? And you know, am
am I prepared to walk away from my job

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am I prepared to walk away from my job
 

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am I prepared to walk away from my job
if that's what is required? And Sean

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if that's what is required? And Sean
 

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if that's what is required? And Sean
asked these questions. If we get started

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asked these questions. If we get started
 

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asked these questions. If we get started
in this thing, you've got to see it

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in this thing, you've got to see it
 

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in this thing, you've got to see it
right through to completion. And so I I

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right through to completion. And so I I
 

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right through to completion. And so I I
you know, after sort of praying about

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you know, after sort of praying about
 

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you know, after sort of praying about
it, thinking about it, talking to my

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it, thinking about it, talking to my
 

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it, thinking about it, talking to my
wife about it, we decided that uh we

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wife about it, we decided that uh we
 

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wife about it, we decided that uh we
would move forward with this regard

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would move forward with this regard
 

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would move forward with this regard
regardless of what circumstances were

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regardless of what circumstances were
 

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regardless of what circumstances were
going to happen. I I didn't have to

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going to happen. I I didn't have to
 

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going to happen. I I didn't have to
worry about those circumstances. That's

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worry about those circumstances. That's
 

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worry about those circumstances. That's
good to hear. talked to my le talked to

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good to hear. talked to my le talked to
 

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good to hear. talked to my le talked to
my leader about it and he said, "Listen,

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my leader about it and he said, "Listen,
 

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my leader about it and he said, "Listen,
I've been on the road. I talk to people.

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I've been on the road. I talk to people.
 

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I've been on the road. I talk to people.
He'll be lined up for an hour or two

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He'll be lined up for an hour or two
 

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He'll be lined up for an hour or two
talking to people, whatever events he's

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talking to people, whatever events he's
 

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talking to people, whatever events he's
at." He said, "People doesn't go by. I

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at." He said, "People doesn't go by. I
 

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at." He said, "People doesn't go by. I
two weeks don't go by when I'm on the

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two weeks don't go by when I'm on the
 

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two weeks don't go by when I'm on the
road where someone doesn't come up to me

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road where someone doesn't come up to me
 

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road where someone doesn't come up to me
and say, "I've been injured." And he

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and say, "I've been injured." And he
 

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and say, "I've been injured." And he
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understood that because he's actually
 

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understood that because he's actually
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been talking to people out out of the
 

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been talking to people out out of the
countryside. So,

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countryside. So,
 

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countryside. So,
>> that's fascinating that you bring that

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>> that's fascinating that you bring that
 

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>> that's fascinating that you bring that
up. um to have to consider like the

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up. um to have to consider like the
 

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up. um to have to consider like the
position that you're in as an MP, an

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position that you're in as an MP, an
 

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position that you're in as an MP, an
elected official, um working for

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elected official, um working for
 

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elected official, um working for
Parliament, working for your

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Parliament, working for your
 

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Parliament, working for your
constituents, to think that you yourself

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constituents, to think that you yourself
 

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constituents, to think that you yourself
had to weigh in the consequences of

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had to weigh in the consequences of
 

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had to weigh in the consequences of
having this conversation. And one of

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having this conversation. And one of
 

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having this conversation. And one of
those consequences was potentially,

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those consequences was potentially,
 

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those consequences was potentially,
you know, maybe not having a job or

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you know, maybe not having a job or
 

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you know, maybe not having a job or
working in a closet um you know, to

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working in a closet um you know, to
 

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working in a closet um you know, to
finish out your term. I think goes to

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finish out your term. I think goes to
 

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finish out your term. I think goes to
show the resistance um of

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show the resistance um of
 

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show the resistance um of
you around the subject around COVID.

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you around the subject around COVID.
 

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you around the subject around COVID.
Why? Why do you think that is?

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Why? Why do you think that is?
 

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Why? Why do you think that is?
No, like I said, you know, I I think

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No, like I said, you know, I I think
 

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No, like I said, you know, I I think
that it's interesting that I I find out

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that it's interesting that I I find out
 

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that it's interesting that I I find out
that, you know, we end up l literally

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that, you know, we end up l literally
 

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that, you know, we end up l literally
having these conversations privately.

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having these conversations privately.
 

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having these conversations privately.
So, think about that. I'll talk to

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So, think about that. I'll talk to
 

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So, think about that. I'll talk to
people all the time about these issues,

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people all the time about these issues,
 

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people all the time about these issues,
but there is such a huge reluctance to

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but there is such a huge reluctance to
 

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but there is such a huge reluctance to
for people to share their stories

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for people to share their stories
 

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for people to share their stories
because they've been gaslit, they've

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because they've been gaslit, they've
 

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because they've been gaslit, they've
been marginalized, they feel abandoned.

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been marginalized, they feel abandoned.
 

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been marginalized, they feel abandoned.
And so I think one of one of the when we

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And so I think one of one of the when we
 

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And so I think one of one of the when we
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were talking about sort of the frames of
 

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were talking about sort of the frames of
reference in terms of what what does

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reference in terms of what what does
 

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reference in terms of what what does
this inquiry look like, I thought about

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this inquiry look like, I thought about
 

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this inquiry look like, I thought about
this long and hard, you know, as a

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this long and hard, you know, as a
 

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this long and hard, you know, as a
member of parliament for 22 years, I

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member of parliament for 22 years, I
 

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member of parliament for 22 years, I
figured what is this I can legitimately

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figured what is this I can legitimately
 

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figured what is this I can legitimately
do and not get into the weeds and not

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do and not get into the weeds and not
 

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do and not get into the weeds and not
have a have a problem. I'd love to have

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have a have a problem. I'd love to have
 

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have a have a problem. I'd love to have
a a more wholesome conversation about

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a a more wholesome conversation about
 

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a a more wholesome conversation about
everything. That's not what I do as a

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everything. That's not what I do as a
 

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everything. That's not what I do as a
member of parliament. So I would

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member of parliament. So I would
 

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member of parliament. So I would
challenge anybody to say, listen, you

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challenge anybody to say, listen, you
 

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challenge anybody to say, listen, you
can't do what you're doing because this

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can't do what you're doing because this
 

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can't do what you're doing because this
is my job. I have these conversations

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is my job. I have these conversations
 

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is my job. I have these conversations
every day. And so really what we're

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every day. And so really what we're
 

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every day. And so really what we're
trying to do is give people permission

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trying to do is give people permission
 

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trying to do is give people permission
to talk about their injuries publicly.

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to talk about their injuries publicly.
 

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to talk about their injuries publicly.
And that's I feel that's been lacking in

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And that's I feel that's been lacking in
 

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And that's I feel that's been lacking in
this country for so long is that people

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this country for so long is that people
 

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this country for so long is that people
felt embarrassed, ashamed, put to the

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felt embarrassed, ashamed, put to the
 

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felt embarrassed, ashamed, put to the
side. We need to give people permission

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side. We need to give people permission
 

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side. We need to give people permission
publicly to share their stories. And I

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publicly to share their stories. And I
 

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publicly to share their stories. And I
think by us being able to start with

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think by us being able to start with
 

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think by us being able to start with
this inquiry, I hope this catches on and

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this inquiry, I hope this catches on and
 

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this inquiry, I hope this catches on and
people can share more of these stories

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people can share more of these stories
 

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people can share more of these stories
and we can begin the healing amongst

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and we can begin the healing amongst
 

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and we can begin the healing amongst
family members against neighbors,

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family members against neighbors,
 

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family members against neighbors,
against community, etc., etc. We want

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against community, etc., etc. We want
 

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against community, etc., etc. We want
people to have permission to be able to

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people to have permission to be able to
 

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people to have permission to be able to
talk about these things freely,

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talk about these things freely,
 

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talk about these things freely,
publicly.

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publicly.
 

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publicly.
Now Sean, I want to bring you into the

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Now Sean, I want to bring you into the
 

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Now Sean, I want to bring you into the
conversation here because you and I have

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conversation here because you and I have
 

455
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conversation here because you and I have
had uh many conversations in the past

456
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had uh many conversations in the past
 

457
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had uh many conversations in the past
about the fear around this conversation

458
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about the fear around this conversation
 

459
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about the fear around this conversation
and the fact that people have tried to

460
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and the fact that people have tried to
 

461
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and the fact that people have tried to
sweep it under the rug. People are like,

462
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sweep it under the rug. People are like,
 

463
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sweep it under the rug. People are like,
"We just want to move on. They don't

464
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"We just want to move on. They don't
 

465
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"We just want to move on. They don't
want to rehash it." Um but I mean

466
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want to rehash it." Um but I mean
 

467
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want to rehash it." Um but I mean
government has a responsibility here.

468
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government has a responsibility here.
 

469
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government has a responsibility here.
They said that there was a product out

470
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They said that there was a product out
 

471
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They said that there was a product out
there that was safe. Um it was coerced.

472
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there that was safe. Um it was coerced.
 

473
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there that was safe. Um it was coerced.
it was literally forced upon people, you

474
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it was literally forced upon people, you
 

475
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it was literally forced upon people, you
know, to keep their jobs. Um, I want to

476
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know, to keep their jobs. Um, I want to
 

477
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know, to keep their jobs. Um, I want to
bring you in here from a legal

478
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bring you in here from a legal
 

479
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bring you in here from a legal
standpoint and then we'll get back to to

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standpoint and then we'll get back to to
 

481
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standpoint and then we'll get back to to
uh uh Dean here. But let let's talk

482
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uh uh Dean here. But let let's talk
 

483
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uh uh Dean here. But let let's talk
about where is this fear coming from

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about where is this fear coming from
 

485
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about where is this fear coming from
because I I understand the college of

486
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because I I understand the college of
 

487
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because I I understand the college of
physicians uh and surgeons as well, you

488
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physicians uh and surgeons as well, you
 

489
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physicians uh and surgeons as well, you
know, silenced doctors. Um MPs couldn't

490
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know, silenced doctors. Um MPs couldn't
 

491
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know, silenced doctors. Um MPs couldn't
speak out at the time. Um it it was

492
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speak out at the time. Um it it was
 

493
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speak out at the time. Um it it was
meant to be this monologue, one

494
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meant to be this monologue, one
 

495
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meant to be this monologue, one
narrative that was shared and that was

496
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narrative that was shared and that was
 

497
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narrative that was shared and that was
that the vaccines are safe and

498
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that the vaccines are safe and
 

499
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that the vaccines are safe and
effective.

500
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effective.
 

501
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effective.
>> Yeah. I I want to just segue a little

502
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>> Yeah. I I want to just segue a little
 

503
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>> Yeah. I I want to just segue a little
bit because I think people need to

504
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bit because I think people need to
 

505
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bit because I think people need to
understand

506
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understand
 

507
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understand
um that we have different belief

508
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um that we have different belief
 

509
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um that we have different belief
systems. So people watching your show

510
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systems. So people watching your show
 

511
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systems. So people watching your show
likely are very um educated on COVID

512
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likely are very um educated on COVID
 

513
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likely are very um educated on COVID
issues. If I was to say PCR test, you

514
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issues. If I was to say PCR test, you
 

515
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issues. If I was to say PCR test, you
know, if I was to say all cause

516
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know, if I was to say all cause
 

517
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know, if I was to say all cause
mortality, like they know what I'm

518
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mortality, like they know what I'm
 

519
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mortality, like they know what I'm
talking about,

520
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talking about,
 

521
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talking about,
but there's, you know, a very sizable

522
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but there's, you know, a very sizable
 

523
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but there's, you know, a very sizable
portion of the population

524
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portion of the population
 

525
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portion of the population
that they watch the mainstream media and

526
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that they watch the mainstream media and
 

527
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that they watch the mainstream media and
they've actually been given no reason

528
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they've actually been given no reason
 

529
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they've actually been given no reason
not to. And I used to watch the

530
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not to. And I used to watch the
 

531
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not to. And I used to watch the
mainstream media and it presents itself

532
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mainstream media and it presents itself
 

533
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mainstream media and it presents itself
as authoritative.

534
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as authoritative.
 

535
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as authoritative.
Um I I think there was even a time where

536
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Um I I think there was even a time where
 

537
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Um I I think there was even a time where
they did balance journalism

538
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they did balance journalism
 

539
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they did balance journalism
and those people have a different belief

540
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and those people have a different belief
 

541
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and those people have a different belief
system you know before as part of kind

542
00:10:01,350 --> 00:10:01,360
system you know before as part of kind
 

543
00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:04,630
system you know before as part of kind
of the process um to try and figure out

544
00:10:04,630 --> 00:10:04,640
of the process um to try and figure out
 

545
00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,790
of the process um to try and figure out
what would it be viable to go ahead with

546
00:10:06,790 --> 00:10:06,800
what would it be viable to go ahead with
 

547
00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:09,910
what would it be viable to go ahead with
this because as Dean has been explaining

548
00:10:09,910 --> 00:10:09,920
this because as Dean has been explaining
 

549
00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:11,750
this because as Dean has been explaining
I mean

550
00:10:11,750 --> 00:10:11,760
I mean
 

551
00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:13,829
I mean
all he wants to do is to listen to

552
00:10:13,829 --> 00:10:13,839
all he wants to do is to listen to
 

553
00:10:13,839 --> 00:10:16,949
all he wants to do is to listen to
vaccine injured persons so that they can

554
00:10:16,949 --> 00:10:16,959
vaccine injured persons so that they can
 

555
00:10:16,959 --> 00:10:19,509
vaccine injured persons so that they can
actually be heard and hopefully we'll

556
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actually be heard and hopefully we'll
 

557
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actually be heard and hopefully we'll
break this spell where people are free

558
00:10:21,350 --> 00:10:21,360
break this spell where people are free
 

559
00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:24,150
break this spell where people are free
to talk about this. Well, we're talking

560
00:10:24,150 --> 00:10:24,160
to talk about this. Well, we're talking
 

561
00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:26,470
to talk about this. Well, we're talking
to MP. He says, you know, and as part of

562
00:10:26,470 --> 00:10:26,480
to MP. He says, you know, and as part of
 

563
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to MP. He says, you know, and as part of
this process, well, will you talk to

564
00:10:28,069 --> 00:10:28,079
this process, well, will you talk to
 

565
00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:31,030
this process, well, will you talk to
other MPs to see like, am I going to be

566
00:10:31,030 --> 00:10:31,040
other MPs to see like, am I going to be
 

567
00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,590
other MPs to see like, am I going to be
alone at the table? Like, is there any

568
00:10:33,590 --> 00:10:33,600
alone at the table? Like, is there any
 

569
00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:35,110
alone at the table? Like, is there any
is there anyone who will sit at the

570
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is there anyone who will sit at the
 

571
00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:36,870
is there anyone who will sit at the
table with me? So my wife Teresa and I

572
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table with me? So my wife Teresa and I
 

573
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table with me? So my wife Teresa and I
were, you know, having a whole bunch of

574
00:10:38,790 --> 00:10:38,800
were, you know, having a whole bunch of
 

575
00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:43,030
were, you know, having a whole bunch of
MP meetings and like not one person

576
00:10:43,030 --> 00:10:43,040
MP meetings and like not one person
 

577
00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:44,949
MP meetings and like not one person
would, you know, think thought that it

578
00:10:44,949 --> 00:10:44,959
would, you know, think thought that it
 

579
00:10:44,959 --> 00:10:48,230
would, you know, think thought that it
would be politically viable

580
00:10:48,230 --> 00:10:48,240
would be politically viable
 

581
00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,790
would be politically viable
to sit at a table,

582
00:10:50,790 --> 00:10:50,800
to sit at a table,
 

583
00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,030
to sit at a table,
you know, as an a member of parliament

584
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you know, as an a member of parliament
 

585
00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,990
you know, as an a member of parliament
and listen to Canadians publicly.

586
00:10:55,990 --> 00:10:56,000
and listen to Canadians publicly.
 

587
00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:57,350
and listen to Canadians publicly.
They're they're they're listening to

588
00:10:57,350 --> 00:10:57,360
They're they're they're listening to
 

589
00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:00,790
They're they're they're listening to
them privately, but not a single MP that

590
00:11:00,790 --> 00:11:00,800
them privately, but not a single MP that
 

591
00:11:00,800 --> 00:11:02,870
them privately, but not a single MP that
we met with, and we're cherry-picking

592
00:11:02,870 --> 00:11:02,880
we met with, and we're cherry-picking
 

593
00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:05,590
we met with, and we're cherry-picking
ones that we think could possibly say

594
00:11:05,590 --> 00:11:05,600
ones that we think could possibly say
 

595
00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:08,630
ones that we think could possibly say
yes, um is communicating to us that they

596
00:11:08,630 --> 00:11:08,640
yes, um is communicating to us that they
 

597
00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:10,630
yes, um is communicating to us that they
would think that it's politically

598
00:11:10,630 --> 00:11:10,640
would think that it's politically
 

599
00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:12,630
would think that it's politically
possible

600
00:11:12,630 --> 00:11:12,640
possible
 

601
00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:16,310
possible
to sit at the table. Now, so we have to

602
00:11:16,310 --> 00:11:16,320
to sit at the table. Now, so we have to
 

603
00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,870
to sit at the table. Now, so we have to
talk about the media in a second, but

604
00:11:18,870 --> 00:11:18,880
talk about the media in a second, but
 

605
00:11:18,880 --> 00:11:21,030
talk about the media in a second, but
but we need to understand because having

606
00:11:21,030 --> 00:11:21,040
but we need to understand because having
 

607
00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,829
but we need to understand because having
these conversations with MPs, I also

608
00:11:23,829 --> 00:11:23,839
these conversations with MPs, I also
 

609
00:11:23,839 --> 00:11:26,949
these conversations with MPs, I also
came to believe or came to understand

610
00:11:26,949 --> 00:11:26,959
came to believe or came to understand
 

611
00:11:26,959 --> 00:11:29,430
came to believe or came to understand
that I'm in a bubble.

612
00:11:29,430 --> 00:11:29,440
that I'm in a bubble.
 

613
00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,110
that I'm in a bubble.
I've got this worldview where I know all

614
00:11:31,110 --> 00:11:31,120
I've got this worldview where I know all
 

615
00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:34,550
I've got this worldview where I know all
these co things. Um, I ex I've come to

616
00:11:34,550 --> 00:11:34,560
these co things. Um, I ex I've come to
 

617
00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:39,430
these co things. Um, I ex I've come to
learn I bet you it's less than 10 MPs

618
00:11:39,430 --> 00:11:39,440
learn I bet you it's less than 10 MPs
 

619
00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:41,990
learn I bet you it's less than 10 MPs
that don't believe that the vaccines

620
00:11:41,990 --> 00:11:42,000
that don't believe that the vaccines
 

621
00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,550
that don't believe that the vaccines
were safe and effective.

622
00:11:44,550 --> 00:11:44,560
were safe and effective.
 

623
00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,310
were safe and effective.
So, okay. So, mo so let's flip this

624
00:11:46,310 --> 00:11:46,320
So, okay. So, mo so let's flip this
 

625
00:11:46,320 --> 00:11:49,110
So, okay. So, mo so let's flip this
around. So, most all MPs

626
00:11:49,110 --> 00:11:49,120
around. So, most all MPs
 

627
00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:51,509
around. So, most all MPs
believe the vaccine is safe and

628
00:11:51,509 --> 00:11:51,519
believe the vaccine is safe and
 

629
00:11:51,519 --> 00:11:54,389
believe the vaccine is safe and
effective. They understand that there's

630
00:11:54,389 --> 00:11:54,399
effective. They understand that there's
 

631
00:11:54,399 --> 00:11:57,430
effective. They understand that there's
injuries all around them, but they like

632
00:11:57,430 --> 00:11:57,440
injuries all around them, but they like
 

633
00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,910
injuries all around them, but they like
a sizable portion of Canadians believe

634
00:11:59,910 --> 00:11:59,920
a sizable portion of Canadians believe
 

635
00:11:59,920 --> 00:12:01,750
a sizable portion of Canadians believe
that the injuries were caused by long

636
00:12:01,750 --> 00:12:01,760
that the injuries were caused by long
 

637
00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,110
that the injuries were caused by long
co. Now, let that sink in for a second.

638
00:12:05,110 --> 00:12:05,120
co. Now, let that sink in for a second.
 

639
00:12:05,120 --> 00:12:07,269
co. Now, let that sink in for a second.
If you believe that most of the injuries

640
00:12:07,269 --> 00:12:07,279
If you believe that most of the injuries
 

641
00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:10,230
If you believe that most of the injuries
around you are caused by long co because

642
00:12:10,230 --> 00:12:10,240
around you are caused by long co because
 

643
00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:11,990
around you are caused by long co because
we all know that we're in a train wreck

644
00:12:11,990 --> 00:12:12,000
we all know that we're in a train wreck
 

645
00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:13,829
we all know that we're in a train wreck
of injuries.

646
00:12:13,829 --> 00:12:13,839
of injuries.
 

647
00:12:13,839 --> 00:12:15,670
of injuries.
We all know there's been deaths of young

648
00:12:15,670 --> 00:12:15,680
We all know there's been deaths of young
 

649
00:12:15,680 --> 00:12:18,069
We all know there's been deaths of young
people and died suddenly and all of

650
00:12:18,069 --> 00:12:18,079
people and died suddenly and all of
 

651
00:12:18,079 --> 00:12:20,069
people and died suddenly and all of
this. But if you believe that's caused

652
00:12:20,069 --> 00:12:20,079
this. But if you believe that's caused
 

653
00:12:20,079 --> 00:12:22,629
this. But if you believe that's caused
by long co and you believe that the

654
00:12:22,629 --> 00:12:22,639
by long co and you believe that the
 

655
00:12:22,639 --> 00:12:25,910
by long co and you believe that the
vaccine was safe and effective, then you

656
00:12:25,910 --> 00:12:25,920
vaccine was safe and effective, then you
 

657
00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:27,590
vaccine was safe and effective, then you
know you believe the vaccine saved

658
00:12:27,590 --> 00:12:27,600
know you believe the vaccine saved
 

659
00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:29,670
know you believe the vaccine saved
lives. It prevented a lot of this long

660
00:12:29,670 --> 00:12:29,680
lives. It prevented a lot of this long
 

661
00:12:29,680 --> 00:12:33,110
lives. It prevented a lot of this long
co. If that's your belief, you actually

662
00:12:33,110 --> 00:12:33,120
co. If that's your belief, you actually
 

663
00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,750
co. If that's your belief, you actually
are going to be morally outraged at

664
00:12:35,750 --> 00:12:35,760
are going to be morally outraged at
 

665
00:12:35,760 --> 00:12:38,389
are going to be morally outraged at
anything that would cause vaccine

666
00:12:38,389 --> 00:12:38,399
anything that would cause vaccine
 

667
00:12:38,399 --> 00:12:40,550
anything that would cause vaccine
hesitancy.

668
00:12:40,550 --> 00:12:40,560
hesitancy.
 

669
00:12:40,560 --> 00:12:43,910
hesitancy.
Like we have to understand that that

670
00:12:43,910 --> 00:12:43,920
Like we have to understand that that
 

671
00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:45,910
Like we have to understand that that
this is a passionate thing because this

672
00:12:45,910 --> 00:12:45,920
this is a passionate thing because this
 

673
00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:48,069
this is a passionate thing because this
is life and death. just as passionate as

674
00:12:48,069 --> 00:12:48,079
is life and death. just as passionate as
 

675
00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:50,389
is life and death. just as passionate as
you and I are is wait a second people

676
00:12:50,389 --> 00:12:50,399
you and I are is wait a second people
 

677
00:12:50,399 --> 00:12:53,750
you and I are is wait a second people
are dying

678
00:12:53,750 --> 00:12:53,760

 

679
00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,509

and people are not getting proper

680
00:12:55,509 --> 00:12:55,519
and people are not getting proper
 

681
00:12:55,519 --> 00:12:58,389
and people are not getting proper
treatment and suffering because we can't

682
00:12:58,389 --> 00:12:58,399
treatment and suffering because we can't
 

683
00:12:58,399 --> 00:13:00,629
treatment and suffering because we can't
acknowledge it's vaccine injury and not

684
00:13:00,629 --> 00:13:00,639
acknowledge it's vaccine injury and not
 

685
00:13:00,639 --> 00:13:04,310
acknowledge it's vaccine injury and not
long co there's the same passion on the

686
00:13:04,310 --> 00:13:04,320
long co there's the same passion on the
 

687
00:13:04,320 --> 00:13:06,710
long co there's the same passion on the
other side

688
00:13:06,710 --> 00:13:06,720
other side
 

689
00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:09,030
other side
and

690
00:13:09,030 --> 00:13:09,040
and
 

691
00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,269
and
the interesting thing is is so the whole

692
00:13:11,269 --> 00:13:11,279
the interesting thing is is so the whole
 

693
00:13:11,279 --> 00:13:14,230
the interesting thing is is so the whole
the whole nation is divided we have to

694
00:13:14,230 --> 00:13:14,240
the whole nation is divided we have to
 

695
00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:16,230
the whole nation is divided we have to
have the conversation

696
00:13:16,230 --> 00:13:16,240
have the conversation
 

697
00:13:16,240 --> 00:13:18,870
have the conversation
In September, Ras Muen did a poll in the

698
00:13:18,870 --> 00:13:18,880
In September, Ras Muen did a poll in the
 

699
00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,790
In September, Ras Muen did a poll in the
United States, not Canada, the United

700
00:13:20,790 --> 00:13:20,800
United States, not Canada, the United
 

701
00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,350
United States, not Canada, the United
States, but in the United States, they

702
00:13:23,350 --> 00:13:23,360
States, but in the United States, they
 

703
00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,509
States, but in the United States, they
found that 56.6%

704
00:13:25,509 --> 00:13:25,519
found that 56.6%
 

705
00:13:25,519 --> 00:13:27,509
found that 56.6%
of Americans

706
00:13:27,509 --> 00:13:27,519
of Americans
 

707
00:13:27,519 --> 00:13:29,269
of Americans
believed, and the language is important

708
00:13:29,269 --> 00:13:29,279
believed, and the language is important
 

709
00:13:29,279 --> 00:13:31,269
believed, and the language is important
here, not that the vaccines caused

710
00:13:31,269 --> 00:13:31,279
here, not that the vaccines caused
 

711
00:13:31,279 --> 00:13:34,310
here, not that the vaccines caused
death, but the that the vaccines cause

712
00:13:34,310 --> 00:13:34,320
death, but the that the vaccines cause
 

713
00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,629
death, but the that the vaccines cause
serious death. So, it's not like, you

714
00:13:36,629 --> 00:13:36,639
serious death. So, it's not like, you
 

715
00:13:36,639 --> 00:13:39,670
serious death. So, it's not like, you
know, Aunt May's gardener's uncle died.

716
00:13:39,670 --> 00:13:39,680
know, Aunt May's gardener's uncle died.
 

717
00:13:39,680 --> 00:13:42,949
know, Aunt May's gardener's uncle died.
It's like, no, over half of Americans

718
00:13:42,949 --> 00:13:42,959
It's like, no, over half of Americans
 

719
00:13:42,959 --> 00:13:44,389
It's like, no, over half of Americans
believe that the vaccine caused

720
00:13:44,389 --> 00:13:44,399
believe that the vaccine caused
 

721
00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:46,310
believe that the vaccine caused
significant death. Well, what's what's

722
00:13:46,310 --> 00:13:46,320
significant death. Well, what's what's
 

723
00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:47,990
significant death. Well, what's what's
the figure for people that think the

724
00:13:47,990 --> 00:13:48,000
the figure for people that think the
 

725
00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:49,509
the figure for people that think the
vaccine cause significant harm,

726
00:13:49,509 --> 00:13:49,519
vaccine cause significant harm,
 

727
00:13:49,519 --> 00:13:52,069
vaccine cause significant harm,
including death? It's going to be a lot

728
00:13:52,069 --> 00:13:52,079
including death? It's going to be a lot
 

729
00:13:52,079 --> 00:13:54,790
including death? It's going to be a lot
larger. And the same in Canada. Over

730
00:13:54,790 --> 00:13:54,800
larger. And the same in Canada. Over
 

731
00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:57,829
larger. And the same in Canada. Over
half of Canadians have zero trust in

732
00:13:57,829 --> 00:13:57,839
half of Canadians have zero trust in
 

733
00:13:57,839 --> 00:14:00,949
half of Canadians have zero trust in
public health now.

734
00:14:00,949 --> 00:14:00,959
public health now.
 

735
00:14:00,959 --> 00:14:03,269
public health now.
And they're getting fed up with the fact

736
00:14:03,269 --> 00:14:03,279
And they're getting fed up with the fact
 

737
00:14:03,279 --> 00:14:05,910
And they're getting fed up with the fact
that we can't have this conversation. So

738
00:14:05,910 --> 00:14:05,920
that we can't have this conversation. So
 

739
00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,110
that we can't have this conversation. So
we we have to have this conversation or

740
00:14:09,110 --> 00:14:09,120
we we have to have this conversation or
 

741
00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:13,110
we we have to have this conversation or
or we will not function as a polity and

742
00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:13,120
or we will not function as a polity and
 

743
00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:15,110
or we will not function as a polity and
we will have next time when we actually

744
00:14:15,110 --> 00:14:15,120
we will have next time when we actually
 

745
00:14:15,120 --> 00:14:17,750
we will have next time when we actually
do need public health to be listened to

746
00:14:17,750 --> 00:14:17,760
do need public health to be listened to
 

747
00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,509
do need public health to be listened to
we're going to be in in an extreme

748
00:14:19,509 --> 00:14:19,519
we're going to be in in an extreme
 

749
00:14:19,519 --> 00:14:21,430
we're going to be in in an extreme
crisis. Like it it doesn't serve any of

750
00:14:21,430 --> 00:14:21,440
crisis. Like it it doesn't serve any of
 

751
00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:23,350
crisis. Like it it doesn't serve any of
us. And so the only way we can get

752
00:14:23,350 --> 00:14:23,360
us. And so the only way we can get
 

753
00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:25,990
us. And so the only way we can get
confidence back again is to actually

754
00:14:25,990 --> 00:14:26,000
confidence back again is to actually
 

755
00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,230
confidence back again is to actually
have this conversation have those hard

756
00:14:28,230 --> 00:14:28,240
have this conversation have those hard
 

757
00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:31,110
have this conversation have those hard
conversations and then you know take

758
00:14:31,110 --> 00:14:31,120
conversations and then you know take
 

759
00:14:31,120 --> 00:14:34,310
conversations and then you know take
some action to restore trust in public

760
00:14:34,310 --> 00:14:34,320
some action to restore trust in public
 

761
00:14:34,320 --> 00:14:36,310
some action to restore trust in public
health. Look, I I would like to think we

762
00:14:36,310 --> 00:14:36,320
health. Look, I I would like to think we
 

763
00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:38,629
health. Look, I I would like to think we
could be a nation again where that

764
00:14:38,629 --> 00:14:38,639
could be a nation again where that
 

765
00:14:38,639 --> 00:14:39,910
could be a nation again where that
happens. And actually, I believe we're

766
00:14:39,910 --> 00:14:39,920
happens. And actually, I believe we're
 

767
00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:41,430
happens. And actually, I believe we're
going to get there, Nadine. And I

768
00:14:41,430 --> 00:14:41,440
going to get there, Nadine. And I
 

769
00:14:41,440 --> 00:14:43,670
going to get there, Nadine. And I
actually I'm I'm tired of Canadians. Oh,

770
00:14:43,670 --> 00:14:43,680
actually I'm I'm tired of Canadians. Oh,
 

771
00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,030
actually I'm I'm tired of Canadians. Oh,
the next generation is going to be

772
00:14:45,030 --> 00:14:45,040
the next generation is going to be
 

773
00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:46,790
the next generation is going to be
poorer than the last. And we're we're

774
00:14:46,790 --> 00:14:46,800
poorer than the last. And we're we're
 

775
00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,870
poorer than the last. And we're we're
we're meant to be the richest country in

776
00:14:48,870 --> 00:14:48,880
we're meant to be the richest country in
 

777
00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:52,069
we're meant to be the richest country in
the world, and we we need to get back.

778
00:14:52,069 --> 00:14:52,079
the world, and we we need to get back.
 

779
00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:54,069
the world, and we we need to get back.
Like, it's just we've just gotten so off

780
00:14:54,069 --> 00:14:54,079
Like, it's just we've just gotten so off
 

781
00:14:54,079 --> 00:14:55,829
Like, it's just we've just gotten so off
the track that and I'll get back to what

782
00:14:55,829 --> 00:14:55,839
the track that and I'll get back to what
 

783
00:14:55,839 --> 00:14:57,670
the track that and I'll get back to what
we're talking about. So, why can't we

784
00:14:57,670 --> 00:14:57,680
we're talking about. So, why can't we
 

785
00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,829
we're talking about. So, why can't we
have this conversation?

786
00:14:59,829 --> 00:14:59,839
have this conversation?
 

787
00:14:59,839 --> 00:15:03,189
have this conversation?
That's above my pay grade. All I know is

788
00:15:03,189 --> 00:15:03,199
That's above my pay grade. All I know is
 

789
00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:05,350
That's above my pay grade. All I know is
is that it's by and large because the

790
00:15:05,350 --> 00:15:05,360
is that it's by and large because the
 

791
00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,470
is that it's by and large because the
government is avoiding it and the media

792
00:15:08,470 --> 00:15:08,480
government is avoiding it and the media
 

793
00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:09,910
government is avoiding it and the media
is avoiding it. Now is the media

794
00:15:09,910 --> 00:15:09,920
is avoiding it. Now is the media
 

795
00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:12,949
is avoiding it. Now is the media
avoiding it because the government is a

796
00:15:12,949 --> 00:15:12,959
avoiding it because the government is a
 

797
00:15:12,959 --> 00:15:15,670
avoiding it because the government is a
big funer of the media? I don't know. Is

798
00:15:15,670 --> 00:15:15,680
big funer of the media? I don't know. Is
 

799
00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:17,750
big funer of the media? I don't know. Is
the media avoiding it because pharma is

800
00:15:17,750 --> 00:15:17,760
the media avoiding it because pharma is
 

801
00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,870
the media avoiding it because pharma is
a big contributor of this? I don't know.

802
00:15:20,870 --> 00:15:20,880
a big contributor of this? I don't know.
 

803
00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:23,829
a big contributor of this? I don't know.
Um I do know like I believe Dr. Hoff and

804
00:15:23,829 --> 00:15:23,839
Um I do know like I believe Dr. Hoff and
 

805
00:15:23,839 --> 00:15:25,829
Um I do know like I believe Dr. Hoff and
he he was at our last press conference.

806
00:15:25,829 --> 00:15:25,839
he he was at our last press conference.
 

807
00:15:25,839 --> 00:15:27,990
he he was at our last press conference.
I mean doctors from day one in medical

808
00:15:27,990 --> 00:15:28,000
I mean doctors from day one in medical
 

809
00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:29,829
I mean doctors from day one in medical
school vaccines are safe and effective

810
00:15:29,829 --> 00:15:29,839
school vaccines are safe and effective
 

811
00:15:29,839 --> 00:15:31,829
school vaccines are safe and effective
act and we've all come to understand

812
00:15:31,829 --> 00:15:31,839
act and we've all come to understand
 

813
00:15:31,839 --> 00:15:33,430
act and we've all come to understand
this and we all understand the

814
00:15:33,430 --> 00:15:33,440
this and we all understand the
 

815
00:15:33,440 --> 00:15:36,710
this and we all understand the
messaging. Have we gotten to the place

816
00:15:36,710 --> 00:15:36,720
messaging. Have we gotten to the place
 

817
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,870
messaging. Have we gotten to the place
and clearly we have because whenever you

818
00:15:38,870 --> 00:15:38,880
and clearly we have because whenever you
 

819
00:15:38,880 --> 00:15:40,069
and clearly we have because whenever you
get to the place where you can't even

820
00:15:40,069 --> 00:15:40,079
get to the place where you can't even
 

821
00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:42,949
get to the place where you can't even
have a conversation you're captured

822
00:15:42,949 --> 00:15:42,959
have a conversation you're captured
 

823
00:15:42,959 --> 00:15:44,629
have a conversation you're captured
now whether what you believe is true or

824
00:15:44,629 --> 00:15:44,639
now whether what you believe is true or
 

825
00:15:44,639 --> 00:15:46,949
now whether what you believe is true or
not your mind's captured. So we're a

826
00:15:46,949 --> 00:15:46,959
not your mind's captured. So we're a
 

827
00:15:46,959 --> 00:15:49,910
not your mind's captured. So we're a
nation whose mind is captured on the

828
00:15:49,910 --> 00:15:49,920
nation whose mind is captured on the
 

829
00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,590
nation whose mind is captured on the
idea of vaccines. They're safe and

830
00:15:51,590 --> 00:15:51,600
idea of vaccines. They're safe and
 

831
00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:53,990
idea of vaccines. They're safe and
effective. that's our are captured

832
00:15:53,990 --> 00:15:54,000
effective. that's our are captured
 

833
00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:57,350
effective. that's our are captured
whether they are or are not our minds

834
00:15:57,350 --> 00:15:57,360
whether they are or are not our minds
 

835
00:15:57,360 --> 00:15:59,350
whether they are or are not our minds
are captured on that issue so we can't

836
00:15:59,350 --> 00:15:59,360
are captured on that issue so we can't
 

837
00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:02,069
are captured on that issue so we can't
have a conversation so I think step one

838
00:16:02,069 --> 00:16:02,079
have a conversation so I think step one
 

839
00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:05,350
have a conversation so I think step one
is is we have to come to realize that

840
00:16:05,350 --> 00:16:05,360
is is we have to come to realize that
 

841
00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:07,350
is is we have to come to realize that
our minds are captured that we're we

842
00:16:07,350 --> 00:16:07,360
our minds are captured that we're we
 

843
00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,670
our minds are captured that we're we
actually can't have a conversation that

844
00:16:09,670 --> 00:16:09,680
actually can't have a conversation that
 

845
00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:11,990
actually can't have a conversation that
we can't have an open mind about it that

846
00:16:11,990 --> 00:16:12,000
we can't have an open mind about it that
 

847
00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,430
we can't have an open mind about it that
we can't listen to each other like we

848
00:16:13,430 --> 00:16:13,440
we can't listen to each other like we
 

849
00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:15,430
we can't listen to each other like we
have to understand we're captured first

850
00:16:15,430 --> 00:16:15,440
have to understand we're captured first
 

851
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:19,509
have to understand we're captured first
and that's both sides of the equation

852
00:16:19,509 --> 00:16:19,519
and that's both sides of the equation
 

853
00:16:19,519 --> 00:16:21,350
and that's both sides of the equation
and then once we come to understand that

854
00:16:21,350 --> 00:16:21,360
and then once we come to understand that
 

855
00:16:21,360 --> 00:16:23,430
and then once we come to understand that
we start we have to, as uncomfortable as

856
00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:23,440
we start we have to, as uncomfortable as
 

857
00:16:23,440 --> 00:16:25,749
we start we have to, as uncomfortable as
it is, start having these conversations

858
00:16:25,749 --> 00:16:25,759
it is, start having these conversations
 

859
00:16:25,759 --> 00:16:28,949
it is, start having these conversations
in a respectful and loving way because

860
00:16:28,949 --> 00:16:28,959
in a respectful and loving way because
 

861
00:16:28,959 --> 00:16:31,590
in a respectful and loving way because
we're not meant to be divided.

862
00:16:31,590 --> 00:16:31,600
we're not meant to be divided.
 

863
00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:34,470
we're not meant to be divided.
And, you know, here we've got um Canada

864
00:16:34,470 --> 00:16:34,480
And, you know, here we've got um Canada
 

865
00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:36,470
And, you know, here we've got um Canada
has a culture because we're so spread

866
00:16:36,470 --> 00:16:36,480
has a culture because we're so spread
 

867
00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:39,350
has a culture because we're so spread
out and you know, we we it was so we had

868
00:16:39,350 --> 00:16:39,360
out and you know, we we it was so we had
 

869
00:16:39,360 --> 00:16:41,189
out and you know, we we it was so we had
to rely on each other so much during the

870
00:16:41,189 --> 00:16:41,199
to rely on each other so much during the
 

871
00:16:41,199 --> 00:16:44,550
to rely on each other so much during the
pioneer days um just to survive that we

872
00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:44,560
pioneer days um just to survive that we
 

873
00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:46,230
pioneer days um just to survive that we
have a culture of helping each other and

874
00:16:46,230 --> 00:16:46,240
have a culture of helping each other and
 

875
00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:48,550
have a culture of helping each other and
we have a culture of taking care of our

876
00:16:48,550 --> 00:16:48,560
we have a culture of taking care of our
 

877
00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:51,030
we have a culture of taking care of our
own. And now we've got this large group

878
00:16:51,030 --> 00:16:51,040
own. And now we've got this large group
 

879
00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:52,790
own. And now we've got this large group
of people that need to be taken care of

880
00:16:52,790 --> 00:16:52,800
of people that need to be taken care of
 

881
00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:54,949
of people that need to be taken care of
and we're not. And we need to get back

882
00:16:54,949 --> 00:16:54,959
and we're not. And we need to get back
 

883
00:16:54,959 --> 00:16:56,389
and we're not. And we need to get back
to our roots and we need to have the

884
00:16:56,389 --> 00:16:56,399
to our roots and we need to have the
 

885
00:16:56,399 --> 00:16:58,069
to our roots and we need to have the
conversation. I don't know why the

886
00:16:58,069 --> 00:16:58,079
conversation. I don't know why the
 

887
00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:01,829
conversation. I don't know why the
mainstream media has been complicit in

888
00:17:01,829 --> 00:17:01,839
mainstream media has been complicit in
 

889
00:17:01,839 --> 00:17:03,990
mainstream media has been complicit in
preventing this conversation and I don't

890
00:17:03,990 --> 00:17:04,000
preventing this conversation and I don't
 

891
00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,429
preventing this conversation and I don't
know why the government has been

892
00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:05,439
know why the government has been
 

893
00:17:05,439 --> 00:17:07,750
know why the government has been
complicit. It could be that that we've

894
00:17:07,750 --> 00:17:07,760
complicit. It could be that that we've
 

895
00:17:07,760 --> 00:17:09,829
complicit. It could be that that we've
all just kind of had this momentum with

896
00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:09,839
all just kind of had this momentum with
 

897
00:17:09,839 --> 00:17:13,110
all just kind of had this momentum with
good intentions and now we're captured

898
00:17:13,110 --> 00:17:13,120
good intentions and now we're captured
 

899
00:17:13,120 --> 00:17:14,630
good intentions and now we're captured
including the government's captured and

900
00:17:14,630 --> 00:17:14,640
including the government's captured and
 

901
00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:16,150
including the government's captured and
the media's captured. I don't know. I'm

902
00:17:16,150 --> 00:17:16,160
the media's captured. I don't know. I'm
 

903
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,390
the media's captured. I don't know. I'm
just speculating. I just know that we're

904
00:17:18,390 --> 00:17:18,400
just speculating. I just know that we're
 

905
00:17:18,400 --> 00:17:20,630
just speculating. I just know that we're
captured.

906
00:17:20,630 --> 00:17:20,640
captured.
 

907
00:17:20,640 --> 00:17:23,750
captured.
>> Now, I want to bring this question to um

908
00:17:23,750 --> 00:17:23,760
>> Now, I want to bring this question to um
 

909
00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:26,710
>> Now, I want to bring this question to um
MP Allison here because

910
00:17:26,710 --> 00:17:26,720
MP Allison here because
 

911
00:17:26,720 --> 00:17:31,029
MP Allison here because
the government really did push this um

912
00:17:31,029 --> 00:17:31,039
the government really did push this um
 

913
00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:32,310
the government really did push this um
and and I know it wasn't the

914
00:17:32,310 --> 00:17:32,320
and and I know it wasn't the
 

915
00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:33,669
and and I know it wasn't the
Conservative government, but the

916
00:17:33,669 --> 00:17:33,679
Conservative government, but the
 

917
00:17:33,679 --> 00:17:36,789
Conservative government, but the
Conservatives, the NDP, everybody was in

918
00:17:36,789 --> 00:17:36,799
Conservatives, the NDP, everybody was in
 

919
00:17:36,799 --> 00:17:38,549
Conservatives, the NDP, everybody was in
consensus that, you know, the vaccine

920
00:17:38,549 --> 00:17:38,559
consensus that, you know, the vaccine
 

921
00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:40,549
consensus that, you know, the vaccine
was safe and effective, everybody should

922
00:17:40,549 --> 00:17:40,559
was safe and effective, everybody should
 

923
00:17:40,559 --> 00:17:42,789
was safe and effective, everybody should
get their vaccine. I mean there's some

924
00:17:42,789 --> 00:17:42,799
get their vaccine. I mean there's some
 

925
00:17:42,799 --> 00:17:46,150
get their vaccine. I mean there's some
liability I think that comes along with

926
00:17:46,150 --> 00:17:46,160
liability I think that comes along with
 

927
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:48,549
liability I think that comes along with
um this idea that if you know you're

928
00:17:48,549 --> 00:17:48,559
um this idea that if you know you're
 

929
00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:50,630
um this idea that if you know you're
told to do something or coerced to do

930
00:17:50,630 --> 00:17:50,640
told to do something or coerced to do
 

931
00:17:50,640 --> 00:17:52,870
told to do something or coerced to do
something or given an ultimatum in order

932
00:17:52,870 --> 00:17:52,880
something or given an ultimatum in order
 

933
00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,510
something or given an ultimatum in order
to do something you know and it doesn't

934
00:17:55,510 --> 00:17:55,520
to do something you know and it doesn't
 

935
00:17:55,520 --> 00:17:57,669
to do something you know and it doesn't
work out um I think there might be some

936
00:17:57,669 --> 00:17:57,679
work out um I think there might be some
 

937
00:17:57,679 --> 00:17:59,830
work out um I think there might be some
liability. Thus, I think for a lot of

938
00:17:59,830 --> 00:17:59,840
liability. Thus, I think for a lot of
 

939
00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:01,430
liability. Thus, I think for a lot of
Canadians, I don't even think they

940
00:18:01,430 --> 00:18:01,440
Canadians, I don't even think they
 

941
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:04,789
Canadians, I don't even think they
understand that we have a Canadian

942
00:18:04,789 --> 00:18:04,799
understand that we have a Canadian
 

943
00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:08,950
understand that we have a Canadian
vaccine injury program because and

944
00:18:08,950 --> 00:18:08,960
vaccine injury program because and
 

945
00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:11,430
vaccine injury program because and
that's existed before COVID. Uh,

946
00:18:11,430 --> 00:18:11,440
that's existed before COVID. Uh,
 

947
00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:15,029
that's existed before COVID. Uh,
correct. But, you know, this idea that

948
00:18:15,029 --> 00:18:15,039
correct. But, you know, this idea that
 

949
00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:16,950
correct. But, you know, this idea that
it's safe and effective that we don't

950
00:18:16,950 --> 00:18:16,960
it's safe and effective that we don't
 

951
00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,470
it's safe and effective that we don't
give people the proper information to

952
00:18:20,470 --> 00:18:20,480
give people the proper information to
 

953
00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:23,750
give people the proper information to
make an informed decision and there was

954
00:18:23,750 --> 00:18:23,760
make an informed decision and there was
 

955
00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:27,270
make an informed decision and there was
tremendous pressure. Is this potentially

956
00:18:27,270 --> 00:18:27,280
tremendous pressure. Is this potentially
 

957
00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:29,430
tremendous pressure. Is this potentially
part of the reason why the government

958
00:18:29,430 --> 00:18:29,440
part of the reason why the government
 

959
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,070
part of the reason why the government
just wants to kind of sweep this under

960
00:18:32,070 --> 00:18:32,080
just wants to kind of sweep this under
 

961
00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:33,990
just wants to kind of sweep this under
the rug and does not want to have the

962
00:18:33,990 --> 00:18:34,000
the rug and does not want to have the
 

963
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:36,310
the rug and does not want to have the
conversation?

964
00:18:36,310 --> 00:18:36,320
conversation?
 

965
00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,310
conversation?
>> Yeah. Well, you know, when I'm attacked

966
00:18:38,310 --> 00:18:38,320
>> Yeah. Well, you know, when I'm attacked
 

967
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,710
>> Yeah. Well, you know, when I'm attacked
from the the opposite side, I mean,

968
00:18:40,710 --> 00:18:40,720
from the the opposite side, I mean,
 

969
00:18:40,720 --> 00:18:43,270
from the the opposite side, I mean,
they're saying like this this this Dean

970
00:18:43,270 --> 00:18:43,280
they're saying like this this this Dean
 

971
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,870
they're saying like this this this Dean
guy is trying to create vaccine

972
00:18:44,870 --> 00:18:44,880
guy is trying to create vaccine
 

973
00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:47,110
guy is trying to create vaccine
hesitancy. I'm saying like I'm not the

974
00:18:47,110 --> 00:18:47,120
hesitancy. I'm saying like I'm not the
 

975
00:18:47,120 --> 00:18:49,110
hesitancy. I'm saying like I'm not the
one that said people were injured. It's

976
00:18:49,110 --> 00:18:49,120
one that said people were injured. It's
 

977
00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:50,870
one that said people were injured. It's
your your own government numbers that

978
00:18:50,870 --> 00:18:50,880
your your own government numbers that
 

979
00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,029
your your own government numbers that
said it's injured. to actually set up a

980
00:18:53,029 --> 00:18:53,039
said it's injured. to actually set up a
 

981
00:18:53,039 --> 00:18:55,830
said it's injured. to actually set up a
program to make sure that uh you would

982
00:18:55,830 --> 00:18:55,840
program to make sure that uh you would
 

983
00:18:55,840 --> 00:18:57,029
program to make sure that uh you would
could take care of some of these

984
00:18:57,029 --> 00:18:57,039
could take care of some of these
 

985
00:18:57,039 --> 00:18:59,110
could take care of some of these
individuals woefully underfunded and

986
00:18:59,110 --> 00:18:59,120
individuals woefully underfunded and
 

987
00:18:59,120 --> 00:19:01,430
individuals woefully underfunded and
woefully complicated to actually figure

988
00:19:01,430 --> 00:19:01,440
woefully complicated to actually figure
 

989
00:19:01,440 --> 00:19:04,230
woefully complicated to actually figure
out it. So I say it again like I don't

990
00:19:04,230 --> 00:19:04,240
out it. So I say it again like I don't
 

991
00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,150
out it. So I say it again like I don't
know how I can't be on safe ground by

992
00:19:06,150 --> 00:19:06,160
know how I can't be on safe ground by
 

993
00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,150
know how I can't be on safe ground by
one listening to people's stories and

994
00:19:08,150 --> 00:19:08,160
one listening to people's stories and
 

995
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:10,070
one listening to people's stories and
two fighting for the programs fighting

996
00:19:10,070 --> 00:19:10,080
two fighting for the programs fighting
 

997
00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,070
two fighting for the programs fighting
for the things that they they deserve to

998
00:19:12,070 --> 00:19:12,080
for the things that they they deserve to
 

999
00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:13,750
for the things that they they deserve to
be a part of. I think you hit the nail

1000
00:19:13,750 --> 00:19:13,760
be a part of. I think you hit the nail
 

1001
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:15,110
be a part of. I think you hit the nail
on the head. You know how many

1002
00:19:15,110 --> 00:19:15,120
on the head. You know how many
 

1003
00:19:15,120 --> 00:19:16,390
on the head. You know how many
government programs do we have in

1004
00:19:16,390 --> 00:19:16,400
government programs do we have in
 

1005
00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,909
government programs do we have in
existence right now that people have no

1006
00:19:17,909 --> 00:19:17,919
existence right now that people have no
 

1007
00:19:17,919 --> 00:19:20,549
existence right now that people have no
idea exist and people have a hard time

1008
00:19:20,549 --> 00:19:20,559
idea exist and people have a hard time
 

1009
00:19:20,559 --> 00:19:22,630
idea exist and people have a hard time
accessing? That's part of what I want to

1010
00:19:22,630 --> 00:19:22,640
accessing? That's part of what I want to
 

1011
00:19:22,640 --> 00:19:24,230
accessing? That's part of what I want to
shed a light on and I want people to

1012
00:19:24,230 --> 00:19:24,240
shed a light on and I want people to
 

1013
00:19:24,240 --> 00:19:26,630
shed a light on and I want people to
understand like I want people listening

1014
00:19:26,630 --> 00:19:26,640
understand like I want people listening
 

1015
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:29,270
understand like I want people listening
in public health to say, "Wow, uh maybe

1016
00:19:29,270 --> 00:19:29,280
in public health to say, "Wow, uh maybe
 

1017
00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:30,549
in public health to say, "Wow, uh maybe
they already knew that, but I want

1018
00:19:30,549 --> 00:19:30,559
they already knew that, but I want
 

1019
00:19:30,559 --> 00:19:32,390
they already knew that, but I want
Canadians to understand that." You know,

1020
00:19:32,390 --> 00:19:32,400
Canadians to understand that." You know,
 

1021
00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,430
Canadians to understand that." You know,
people say, "Well, if you've been

1022
00:19:33,430 --> 00:19:33,440
people say, "Well, if you've been
 

1023
00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:34,470
people say, "Well, if you've been
injured, why can't you get

1024
00:19:34,470 --> 00:19:34,480
injured, why can't you get
 

1025
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,230
injured, why can't you get
compensation?" Well, it's a great that's

1026
00:19:36,230 --> 00:19:36,240
compensation?" Well, it's a great that's
 

1027
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:38,630
compensation?" Well, it's a great that's
a great question. And you know, Sean can

1028
00:19:38,630 --> 00:19:38,640
a great question. And you know, Sean can
 

1029
00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,390
a great question. And you know, Sean can
probably we've both heard stories. Sean

1030
00:19:40,390 --> 00:19:40,400
probably we've both heard stories. Sean
 

1031
00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,390
probably we've both heard stories. Sean
has heard more stories about how

1032
00:19:42,390 --> 00:19:42,400
has heard more stories about how
 

1033
00:19:42,400 --> 00:19:43,990
has heard more stories about how
difficult it is to fill out those forms.

1034
00:19:43,990 --> 00:19:44,000
difficult it is to fill out those forms.
 

1035
00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,710
difficult it is to fill out those forms.
If you hear Dr. Hoff talk about how he

1036
00:19:46,710 --> 00:19:46,720
If you hear Dr. Hoff talk about how he
 

1037
00:19:46,720 --> 00:19:49,270
If you hear Dr. Hoff talk about how he
had 14 injured people. Here's a guy a

1038
00:19:49,270 --> 00:19:49,280
had 14 injured people. Here's a guy a
 

1039
00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:52,390
had 14 injured people. Here's a guy a
doctor 20 30 years in his community,

1040
00:19:52,390 --> 00:19:52,400
doctor 20 30 years in his community,
 

1041
00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:54,950
doctor 20 30 years in his community,
1100 people, First Nations, knows his

1042
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:54,960
1100 people, First Nations, knows his
 

1043
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,029
1100 people, First Nations, knows his
patients, knows exactly what's going on,

1044
00:19:57,029 --> 00:19:57,039
patients, knows exactly what's going on,
 

1045
00:19:57,039 --> 00:19:58,630
patients, knows exactly what's going on,
knows what happened before they were

1046
00:19:58,630 --> 00:19:58,640
knows what happened before they were
 

1047
00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,990
knows what happened before they were
took the shot, knows what happened

1048
00:19:59,990 --> 00:20:00,000
took the shot, knows what happened
 

1049
00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:03,430
took the shot, knows what happened
after, and not all 1100 of those people

1050
00:20:03,430 --> 00:20:03,440
after, and not all 1100 of those people
 

1051
00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,590
after, and not all 1100 of those people
got injured, but he knows very clearly.

1052
00:20:05,590 --> 00:20:05,600
got injured, but he knows very clearly.
 

1053
00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,750
got injured, but he knows very clearly.
He said they had 14 people. I think now

1054
00:20:07,750 --> 00:20:07,760
He said they had 14 people. I think now
 

1055
00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,150
He said they had 14 people. I think now
in his practice he thinks they're 36 14

1056
00:20:10,150 --> 00:20:10,160
in his practice he thinks they're 36 14
 

1057
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,950
in his practice he thinks they're 36 14
individuals that he actually wrote stuff

1058
00:20:12,950 --> 00:20:12,960
individuals that he actually wrote stuff
 

1059
00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:15,110
individuals that he actually wrote stuff
to actually wrote you know to the

1060
00:20:15,110 --> 00:20:15,120
to actually wrote you know to the
 

1061
00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:17,750
to actually wrote you know to the
government of BC and it was all rejected

1062
00:20:17,750 --> 00:20:17,760
government of BC and it was all rejected
 

1063
00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:19,750
government of BC and it was all rejected
nine pages of stuff he had to fill out

1064
00:20:19,750 --> 00:20:19,760
nine pages of stuff he had to fill out
 

1065
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,590
nine pages of stuff he had to fill out
and they was rejected they they sent it

1066
00:20:21,590 --> 00:20:21,600
and they was rejected they they sent it
 

1067
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,750
and they was rejected they they sent it
back and said no that's a coincidence so

1068
00:20:23,750 --> 00:20:23,760
back and said no that's a coincidence so
 

1069
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,070
back and said no that's a coincidence so
you think about the process all along

1070
00:20:26,070 --> 00:20:26,080
you think about the process all along
 

1071
00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,470
you think about the process all along
think about the process first of all of

1072
00:20:28,470 --> 00:20:28,480
think about the process first of all of
 

1073
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,990
think about the process first of all of
even people knowing there's a program

1074
00:20:29,990 --> 00:20:30,000
even people knowing there's a program
 

1075
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:31,029
even people knowing there's a program
you just alluded to that people don't

1076
00:20:31,029 --> 00:20:31,039
you just alluded to that people don't
 

1077
00:20:31,039 --> 00:20:32,549
you just alluded to that people don't
even know there's a program then think

1078
00:20:32,549 --> 00:20:32,559
even know there's a program then think
 

1079
00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:34,230
even know there's a program then think
about them trying to get sign up from

1080
00:20:34,230 --> 00:20:34,240
about them trying to get sign up from
 

1081
00:20:34,240 --> 00:20:36,230
about them trying to get sign up from
their doctor which is almost impossible

1082
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:36,240
their doctor which is almost impossible
 

1083
00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,710
their doctor which is almost impossible
here is one doctor, courageous, that

1084
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:38,720
here is one doctor, courageous, that
 

1085
00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:40,549
here is one doctor, courageous, that
actually was prepared to fill out the

1086
00:20:40,549 --> 00:20:40,559
actually was prepared to fill out the
 

1087
00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:43,190
actually was prepared to fill out the
forms. Think about that for a second. A

1088
00:20:43,190 --> 00:20:43,200
forms. Think about that for a second. A
 

1089
00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:44,870
forms. Think about that for a second. A
courageous doctor prepared to fill out

1090
00:20:44,870 --> 00:20:44,880
courageous doctor prepared to fill out
 

1091
00:20:44,880 --> 00:20:46,950
courageous doctor prepared to fill out
the forms that was actually rejected. He

1092
00:20:46,950 --> 00:20:46,960
the forms that was actually rejected. He
 

1093
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:48,630
the forms that was actually rejected. He
got to the point where he said, I it

1094
00:20:48,630 --> 00:20:48,640
got to the point where he said, I it
 

1095
00:20:48,640 --> 00:20:49,990
got to the point where he said, I it
doesn't even make sense to fill out

1096
00:20:49,990 --> 00:20:50,000
doesn't even make sense to fill out
 

1097
00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:52,710
doesn't even make sense to fill out
these nine pages of forms just to

1098
00:20:52,710 --> 00:20:52,720
these nine pages of forms just to
 

1099
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,350
these nine pages of forms just to
indicate that people were uh injured in

1100
00:20:55,350 --> 00:20:55,360
indicate that people were uh injured in
 

1101
00:20:55,360 --> 00:20:57,270
indicate that people were uh injured in
BC. That's not the vaccine injury

1102
00:20:57,270 --> 00:20:57,280
BC. That's not the vaccine injury
 

1103
00:20:57,280 --> 00:20:59,029
BC. That's not the vaccine injury
support program, which is separate

1104
00:20:59,029 --> 00:20:59,039
support program, which is separate
 

1105
00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:01,669
support program, which is separate
altogether. So I what we what we're

1106
00:21:01,669 --> 00:21:01,679
altogether. So I what we what we're
 

1107
00:21:01,679 --> 00:21:03,350
altogether. So I what we what we're
hopeful is that as we have this

1108
00:21:03,350 --> 00:21:03,360
hopeful is that as we have this
 

1109
00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:05,430
hopeful is that as we have this
conversation first of all more people

1110
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:05,440
conversation first of all more people
 

1111
00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:07,510
conversation first of all more people
will understand they're not alone and

1112
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:07,520
will understand they're not alone and
 

1113
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,510
will understand they're not alone and
number two we hope that the government's

1114
00:21:09,510 --> 00:21:09,520
number two we hope that the government's
 

1115
00:21:09,520 --> 00:21:11,350
number two we hope that the government's
listening to say you know what not only

1116
00:21:11,350 --> 00:21:11,360
listening to say you know what not only
 

1117
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:12,870
listening to say you know what not only
do you need more money in this program

1118
00:21:12,870 --> 00:21:12,880
do you need more money in this program
 

1119
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,230
do you need more money in this program
because a lot more people that are

1120
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:14,240
because a lot more people that are
 

1121
00:21:14,240 --> 00:21:16,070
because a lot more people that are
injured you think about those stats we

1122
00:21:16,070 --> 00:21:16,080
injured you think about those stats we
 

1123
00:21:16,080 --> 00:21:18,549
injured you think about those stats we
got the 60,000 people that number the

1124
00:21:18,549 --> 00:21:18,559
got the 60,000 people that number the
 

1125
00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:20,630
got the 60,000 people that number the
government recognizes but we just heard

1126
00:21:20,630 --> 00:21:20,640
government recognizes but we just heard
 

1127
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:23,350
government recognizes but we just heard
from Dr. Hoff talk about how difficult

1128
00:21:23,350 --> 00:21:23,360
from Dr. Hoff talk about how difficult
 

1129
00:21:23,360 --> 00:21:25,350
from Dr. Hoff talk about how difficult
is even to have that registered with

1130
00:21:25,350 --> 00:21:25,360
is even to have that registered with
 

1131
00:21:25,360 --> 00:21:26,870
is even to have that registered with
people. So maybe that number is even

1132
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:26,880
people. So maybe that number is even
 

1133
00:21:26,880 --> 00:21:29,029
people. So maybe that number is even
more. And so then we we get to the third

1134
00:21:29,029 --> 00:21:29,039
more. And so then we we get to the third
 

1135
00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:30,310
more. And so then we we get to the third
step and that's actually trying to

1136
00:21:30,310 --> 00:21:30,320
step and that's actually trying to
 

1137
00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,390
step and that's actually trying to
access the program. And Sean could tell

1138
00:21:32,390 --> 00:21:32,400
access the program. And Sean could tell
 

1139
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,230
access the program. And Sean could tell
you stories about and I I've got

1140
00:21:34,230 --> 00:21:34,240
you stories about and I I've got
 

1141
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:35,909
you stories about and I I've got
stories, Sean's got stories, but think

1142
00:21:35,909 --> 00:21:35,919
stories, Sean's got stories, but think
 

1143
00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:37,510
stories, Sean's got stories, but think
about how complicated it is just to get

1144
00:21:37,510 --> 00:21:37,520
about how complicated it is just to get
 

1145
00:21:37,520 --> 00:21:40,070
about how complicated it is just to get
into the program because then even if a

1146
00:21:40,070 --> 00:21:40,080
into the program because then even if a
 

1147
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:42,149
into the program because then even if a
doctor signed off, they're rejected as

1148
00:21:42,149 --> 00:21:42,159
doctor signed off, they're rejected as
 

1149
00:21:42,159 --> 00:21:43,750
doctor signed off, they're rejected as
well. And I think these are the things

1150
00:21:43,750 --> 00:21:43,760
well. And I think these are the things
 

1151
00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:45,830
well. And I think these are the things
the government needs to hear is the

1152
00:21:45,830 --> 00:21:45,840
the government needs to hear is the
 

1153
00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:47,510
the government needs to hear is the
process needs to be streamlined and

1154
00:21:47,510 --> 00:21:47,520
process needs to be streamlined and
 

1155
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,029
process needs to be streamlined and
there needs to be a lot more money set

1156
00:21:49,029 --> 00:21:49,039
there needs to be a lot more money set
 

1157
00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:52,070
there needs to be a lot more money set
aside for these individuals who on good

1158
00:21:52,070 --> 00:21:52,080
aside for these individuals who on good
 

1159
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,110
aside for these individuals who on good
faith on being told that these vaccines

1160
00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:55,120
faith on being told that these vaccines
 

1161
00:21:55,120 --> 00:21:57,029
faith on being told that these vaccines
were safe and effective took that

1162
00:21:57,029 --> 00:21:57,039
were safe and effective took that
 

1163
00:21:57,039 --> 00:21:59,590
were safe and effective took that
vaccine. Now I have a couple of

1164
00:21:59,590 --> 00:21:59,600
vaccine. Now I have a couple of
 

1165
00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:01,990
vaccine. Now I have a couple of
questions as it relates to this because

1166
00:22:01,990 --> 00:22:02,000
questions as it relates to this because
 

1167
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,230
questions as it relates to this because
what is the role of government period

1168
00:22:04,230 --> 00:22:04,240
what is the role of government period
 

1169
00:22:04,240 --> 00:22:06,710
what is the role of government period
when it comes to people's personal

1170
00:22:06,710 --> 00:22:06,720
when it comes to people's personal
 

1171
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:08,630
when it comes to people's personal
health um and the decisions that they

1172
00:22:08,630 --> 00:22:08,640
health um and the decisions that they
 

1173
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,549
health um and the decisions that they
choose to make in this particular case

1174
00:22:10,549 --> 00:22:10,559
choose to make in this particular case
 

1175
00:22:10,559 --> 00:22:12,470
choose to make in this particular case
and it wasn't just Canada it was around

1176
00:22:12,470 --> 00:22:12,480
and it wasn't just Canada it was around
 

1177
00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:14,710
and it wasn't just Canada it was around
the world people were told they were

1178
00:22:14,710 --> 00:22:14,720
the world people were told they were
 

1179
00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,510
the world people were told they were
coerced in my opinion to take this

1180
00:22:17,510 --> 00:22:17,520
coerced in my opinion to take this
 

1181
00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,630
coerced in my opinion to take this
vaccine um and that came from the

1182
00:22:20,630 --> 00:22:20,640
vaccine um and that came from the
 

1183
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,669
vaccine um and that came from the
government directly all the way down

1184
00:22:23,669 --> 00:22:23,679
government directly all the way down
 

1185
00:22:23,679 --> 00:22:26,630
government directly all the way down
college of physicians and surgeons um to

1186
00:22:26,630 --> 00:22:26,640
college of physicians and surgeons um to
 

1187
00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,110
college of physicians and surgeons um to
your point with Dr. Charles Hoff

1188
00:22:29,110 --> 00:22:29,120
your point with Dr. Charles Hoff
 

1189
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:32,870
your point with Dr. Charles Hoff
literally would not I mean he put in 14

1190
00:22:32,870 --> 00:22:32,880
literally would not I mean he put in 14
 

1191
00:22:32,880 --> 00:22:34,950
literally would not I mean he put in 14
that he knew only to have all 14

1192
00:22:34,950 --> 00:22:34,960
that he knew only to have all 14
 

1193
00:22:34,960 --> 00:22:36,630
that he knew only to have all 14
rejected then just said you know why am

1194
00:22:36,630 --> 00:22:36,640
rejected then just said you know why am
 

1195
00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:38,630
rejected then just said you know why am
I bothering to do take the time to do

1196
00:22:38,630 --> 00:22:38,640
I bothering to do take the time to do
 

1197
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:41,590
I bothering to do take the time to do
the paperwork when it was pretty evident

1198
00:22:41,590 --> 00:22:41,600
the paperwork when it was pretty evident
 

1199
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:45,669
the paperwork when it was pretty evident
they did not want this um to be known or

1200
00:22:45,669 --> 00:22:45,679
they did not want this um to be known or
 

1201
00:22:45,679 --> 00:22:48,549
they did not want this um to be known or
to be documented um it was just a denial

1202
00:22:48,549 --> 00:22:48,559
to be documented um it was just a denial
 

1203
00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:51,029
to be documented um it was just a denial
in my opinion of the facts the

1204
00:22:51,029 --> 00:22:51,039
in my opinion of the facts the
 

1205
00:22:51,039 --> 00:22:52,549
in my opinion of the facts the
information that was being provided

1206
00:22:52,549 --> 00:22:52,559
information that was being provided
 

1207
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:54,870
information that was being provided
because they had a narrative so you know

1208
00:22:54,870 --> 00:22:54,880
because they had a narrative so you know
 

1209
00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,870
because they had a narrative so you know
what what is the role of government here

1210
00:22:56,870 --> 00:22:56,880
what what is the role of government here
 

1211
00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:59,669
what what is the role of government here
during ing events like this where you

1212
00:22:59,669 --> 00:22:59,679
during ing events like this where you
 

1213
00:22:59,679 --> 00:23:03,190
during ing events like this where you
have in my opin opinion it was a flu you

1214
00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:03,200
have in my opin opinion it was a flu you
 

1215
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,070
have in my opin opinion it was a flu you
know let's call it something else co 19

1216
00:23:06,070 --> 00:23:06,080
know let's call it something else co 19
 

1217
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,630
know let's call it something else co 19
and you know that the deaths did not

1218
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:08,640
and you know that the deaths did not
 

1219
00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,110
and you know that the deaths did not
start increasing the mortality rates

1220
00:23:11,110 --> 00:23:11,120
start increasing the mortality rates
 

1221
00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:14,710
start increasing the mortality rates
didn't start increasing until after the

1222
00:23:14,710 --> 00:23:14,720
didn't start increasing until after the
 

1223
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:19,510
didn't start increasing until after the
vaccines were introduced

1224
00:23:19,510 --> 00:23:19,520

 

1225
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:21,029

>> who do you want to start

1226
00:23:21,029 --> 00:23:21,039
>> who do you want to start
 

1227
00:23:21,039 --> 00:23:23,669
>> who do you want to start
>> Sean go

1228
00:23:23,669 --> 00:23:23,679
>> Sean go
 

1229
00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:25,110
>> Sean go
Sean you want to take a stab I'm happy

1230
00:23:25,110 --> 00:23:25,120
Sean you want to take a stab I'm happy
 

1231
00:23:25,120 --> 00:23:26,310
Sean you want to take a stab I'm happy
to add to that as well after

1232
00:23:26,310 --> 00:23:26,320
to add to that as well after
 

1233
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:29,990
to add to that as well after
>> tell us what you really think? So, yeah,

1234
00:23:29,990 --> 00:23:30,000
>> tell us what you really think? So, yeah,
 

1235
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:33,350
>> tell us what you really think? So, yeah,
>> I have strong opinions.

1236
00:23:33,350 --> 00:23:33,360
>> I have strong opinions.
 

1237
00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:34,549
>> I have strong opinions.
Tell me if I'm wrong.

1238
00:23:34,549 --> 00:23:34,559
Tell me if I'm wrong.
 

1239
00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:36,230
Tell me if I'm wrong.
>> Can I share something? Can I share

1240
00:23:36,230 --> 00:23:36,240
>> Can I share something? Can I share
 

1241
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:38,870
>> Can I share something? Can I share
something interesting that that um has

1242
00:23:38,870 --> 00:23:38,880
something interesting that that um has
 

1243
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:41,990
something interesting that that um has
come up? So, we've had like a,000 or,00

1244
00:23:41,990 --> 00:23:42,000
come up? So, we've had like a,000 or,00
 

1245
00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,149
come up? So, we've had like a,000 or,00
people I think now I I don't have the

1246
00:23:44,149 --> 00:23:44,159
people I think now I I don't have the
 

1247
00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:46,630
people I think now I I don't have the
most recent count. It changes every day

1248
00:23:46,630 --> 00:23:46,640
most recent count. It changes every day
 

1249
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:48,310
most recent count. It changes every day
of people that have applied. And first

1250
00:23:48,310 --> 00:23:48,320
of people that have applied. And first
 

1251
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,310
of people that have applied. And first
of all, understand a lot of people are

1252
00:23:50,310 --> 00:23:50,320
of all, understand a lot of people are
 

1253
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:52,710
of all, understand a lot of people are
not applying because they don't they

1254
00:23:52,710 --> 00:23:52,720
not applying because they don't they
 

1255
00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:55,190
not applying because they don't they
don't want to testify in person. So

1256
00:23:55,190 --> 00:23:55,200
don't want to testify in person. So
 

1257
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,029
don't want to testify in person. So
these are just people that are willing

1258
00:23:57,029 --> 00:23:57,039
these are just people that are willing
 

1259
00:23:57,039 --> 00:23:58,950
these are just people that are willing
to testify in person that are applying

1260
00:23:58,950 --> 00:23:58,960
to testify in person that are applying
 

1261
00:23:58,960 --> 00:24:00,310
to testify in person that are applying
and then a lot of the country doesn't

1262
00:24:00,310 --> 00:24:00,320
and then a lot of the country doesn't
 

1263
00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,549
and then a lot of the country doesn't
even know we exist yet. I mean we just

1264
00:24:02,549 --> 00:24:02,559
even know we exist yet. I mean we just
 

1265
00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:05,510
even know we exist yet. I mean we just
So the fact that we already have,00

1266
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:05,520
So the fact that we already have,00
 

1267
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:07,830
So the fact that we already have,00
people that have applied and then you

1268
00:24:07,830 --> 00:24:07,840
people that have applied and then you
 

1269
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:09,669
people that have applied and then you
know there's volunteers that are

1270
00:24:09,669 --> 00:24:09,679
know there's volunteers that are
 

1271
00:24:09,679 --> 00:24:11,750
know there's volunteers that are
filtering these people down because we

1272
00:24:11,750 --> 00:24:11,760
filtering these people down because we
 

1273
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:15,269
filtering these people down because we
only have like maybe 45 slots because

1274
00:24:15,269 --> 00:24:15,279
only have like maybe 45 slots because
 

1275
00:24:15,279 --> 00:24:16,950
only have like maybe 45 slots because
we've only got four days of hearings,

1276
00:24:16,950 --> 00:24:16,960
we've only got four days of hearings,
 

1277
00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:18,310
we've only got four days of hearings,
right?

1278
00:24:18,310 --> 00:24:18,320
right?
 

1279
00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,870
right?
So, and then, you know, they get on a

1280
00:24:20,870 --> 00:24:20,880
So, and then, you know, they get on a
 

1281
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,430
So, and then, you know, they get on a
short list and they and they get down to

1282
00:24:23,430 --> 00:24:23,440
short list and they and they get down to
 

1283
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,149
short list and they and they get down to
me and I interview them and we've

1284
00:24:26,149 --> 00:24:26,159
me and I interview them and we've
 

1285
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:27,750
me and I interview them and we've
already they've already filled in a

1286
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:27,760
already they've already filled in a
 

1287
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:30,070
already they've already filled in a
pretty extensive form.

1288
00:24:30,070 --> 00:24:30,080
pretty extensive form.
 

1289
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,070
pretty extensive form.
Now I'm interviewing people, you know,

1290
00:24:32,070 --> 00:24:32,080
Now I'm interviewing people, you know,
 

1291
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:34,390
Now I'm interviewing people, you know,
they they, you know, one's like a

1292
00:24:34,390 --> 00:24:34,400
they they, you know, one's like a
 

1293
00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:36,870
they they, you know, one's like a
quadripollegic but can move the little

1294
00:24:36,870 --> 00:24:36,880
quadripollegic but can move the little
 

1295
00:24:36,880 --> 00:24:38,630
quadripollegic but can move the little
joystick on the wheelchair so he can get

1296
00:24:38,630 --> 00:24:38,640
joystick on the wheelchair so he can get
 

1297
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,190
joystick on the wheelchair so he can get
around, you know, another's like

1298
00:24:41,190 --> 00:24:41,200
around, you know, another's like
 

1299
00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:43,750
around, you know, another's like
early 30s, lost his kidneys and is

1300
00:24:43,750 --> 00:24:43,760
early 30s, lost his kidneys and is
 

1301
00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:45,430
early 30s, lost his kidneys and is
waiting for kidney transplant and on

1302
00:24:45,430 --> 00:24:45,440
waiting for kidney transplant and on
 

1303
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,390
waiting for kidney transplant and on
dialysis six days a week and if he's

1304
00:24:48,390 --> 00:24:48,400
dialysis six days a week and if he's
 

1305
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,070
dialysis six days a week and if he's
going to testify, he has to arrange for

1306
00:24:50,070 --> 00:24:50,080
going to testify, he has to arrange for
 

1307
00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,789
going to testify, he has to arrange for
dialysis in Ottawa while he's visiting

1308
00:24:52,789 --> 00:24:52,799
dialysis in Ottawa while he's visiting
 

1309
00:24:52,799 --> 00:24:55,110
dialysis in Ottawa while he's visiting
or he can't come, you know, and people

1310
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:55,120
or he can't come, you know, and people
 

1311
00:24:55,120 --> 00:24:57,750
or he can't come, you know, and people
just in chronic pain like just horrific

1312
00:24:57,750 --> 00:24:57,760
just in chronic pain like just horrific
 

1313
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,029
just in chronic pain like just horrific
stories. And I've added a question and I

1314
00:25:01,029 --> 00:25:01,039
stories. And I've added a question and I
 

1315
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:02,390
stories. And I've added a question and I
asked them, well, what's been the most

1316
00:25:02,390 --> 00:25:02,400
asked them, well, what's been the most
 

1317
00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:04,230
asked them, well, what's been the most
difficult part of this? And I'm

1318
00:25:04,230 --> 00:25:04,240
difficult part of this? And I'm
 

1319
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,909
difficult part of this? And I'm
expecting it to be the pain and the

1320
00:25:05,909 --> 00:25:05,919
expecting it to be the pain and the
 

1321
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:07,830
expecting it to be the pain and the
suffering, being a quadripollegic, all

1322
00:25:07,830 --> 00:25:07,840
suffering, being a quadripollegic, all
 

1323
00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:11,430
suffering, being a quadripollegic, all
of this. And almost without exception,

1324
00:25:11,430 --> 00:25:11,440
of this. And almost without exception,
 

1325
00:25:11,440 --> 00:25:14,230
of this. And almost without exception,
that's not the answer. Almost without

1326
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:14,240
that's not the answer. Almost without
 

1327
00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:17,350
that's not the answer. Almost without
exception, it's the gaslighting and the

1328
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:17,360
exception, it's the gaslighting and the
 

1329
00:25:17,360 --> 00:25:19,510
exception, it's the gaslighting and the
not being heard by the medical community

1330
00:25:19,510 --> 00:25:19,520
not being heard by the medical community
 

1331
00:25:19,520 --> 00:25:22,230
not being heard by the medical community
and the vaccine injury support program.

1332
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:22,240
and the vaccine injury support program.
 

1333
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:25,029
and the vaccine injury support program.
So could you imagine you know like

1334
00:25:25,029 --> 00:25:25,039
So could you imagine you know like
 

1335
00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:26,630
So could you imagine you know like
literally people are showing up in

1336
00:25:26,630 --> 00:25:26,640
literally people are showing up in
 

1337
00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,710
literally people are showing up in
emergency like not able to walk

1338
00:25:30,710 --> 00:25:30,720
emergency like not able to walk
 

1339
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,710
emergency like not able to walk
and they're being told well this is a

1340
00:25:32,710 --> 00:25:32,720
and they're being told well this is a
 

1341
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,710
and they're being told well this is a
psychiatric problem you need to see a

1342
00:25:34,710 --> 00:25:34,720
psychiatric problem you need to see a
 

1343
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,510
psychiatric problem you need to see a
psychiatrist like they cannot the system

1344
00:25:37,510 --> 00:25:37,520
psychiatrist like they cannot the system
 

1345
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:39,350
psychiatrist like they cannot the system
can't you imagine so you're suffering

1346
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:39,360
can't you imagine so you're suffering
 

1347
00:25:39,360 --> 00:25:41,350
can't you imagine so you're suffering
terribly and you're basically being told

1348
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:41,360
terribly and you're basically being told
 

1349
00:25:41,360 --> 00:25:43,510
terribly and you're basically being told
you're making it up that this is a

1350
00:25:43,510 --> 00:25:43,520
you're making it up that this is a
 

1351
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:46,549
you're making it up that this is a
psychiatric thing. Yeah. You're 16 years

1352
00:25:46,549 --> 00:25:46,559
psychiatric thing. Yeah. You're 16 years
 

1353
00:25:46,559 --> 00:25:48,390
psychiatric thing. Yeah. You're 16 years
old and you've just decided never to

1354
00:25:48,390 --> 00:25:48,400
old and you've just decided never to
 

1355
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:49,990
old and you've just decided never to
play sports again and and to start

1356
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:50,000
play sports again and and to start
 

1357
00:25:50,000 --> 00:25:51,990
play sports again and and to start
living in a wheelchair. Like literally,

1358
00:25:51,990 --> 00:25:52,000
living in a wheelchair. Like literally,
 

1359
00:25:52,000 --> 00:25:53,909
living in a wheelchair. Like literally,
this is an example where I've

1360
00:25:53,909 --> 00:25:53,919
this is an example where I've
 

1361
00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:55,990
this is an example where I've
interviewed this girl was 16 at the

1362
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:56,000
interviewed this girl was 16 at the
 

1363
00:25:56,000 --> 00:25:59,110
interviewed this girl was 16 at the
time, into volleyball and soccer and all

1364
00:25:59,110 --> 00:25:59,120
time, into volleyball and soccer and all
 

1365
00:25:59,120 --> 00:26:01,830
time, into volleyball and soccer and all
of it, like super athletic. I'm being

1366
00:26:01,830 --> 00:26:01,840
of it, like super athletic. I'm being
 

1367
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,269
of it, like super athletic. I'm being
told, "No, it's it's in your head.

1368
00:26:03,269 --> 00:26:03,279
told, "No, it's it's in your head.
 

1369
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,669
told, "No, it's it's in your head.
You're just making this up." Um, like

1370
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:05,679
You're just making this up." Um, like
 

1371
00:26:05,679 --> 00:26:07,590
You're just making this up." Um, like
it's just so you're having this

1372
00:26:07,590 --> 00:26:07,600
it's just so you're having this
 

1373
00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,830
it's just so you're having this
experience where almost all of a sudden

1374
00:26:09,830 --> 00:26:09,840
experience where almost all of a sudden
 

1375
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,269
experience where almost all of a sudden
you're in a different world and it's

1376
00:26:11,269 --> 00:26:11,279
you're in a different world and it's
 

1377
00:26:11,279 --> 00:26:13,110
you're in a different world and it's
just traumatizing you and traumatizing

1378
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:13,120
just traumatizing you and traumatizing
 

1379
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:16,950
just traumatizing you and traumatizing
you that that it's not the fact that you

1380
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:16,960
you that that it's not the fact that you
 

1381
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,029
you that that it's not the fact that you
go you'll never walk again. It's not the

1382
00:26:19,029 --> 00:26:19,039
go you'll never walk again. It's not the
 

1383
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:20,789
go you'll never walk again. It's not the
fact that you're in chronic pain. It's

1384
00:26:20,789 --> 00:26:20,799
fact that you're in chronic pain. It's
 

1385
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:22,470
fact that you're in chronic pain. It's
not the fact that even if you get a

1386
00:26:22,470 --> 00:26:22,480
not the fact that even if you get a
 

1387
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,110
not the fact that even if you get a
kidney and best case scenario, it's 12

1388
00:26:25,110 --> 00:26:25,120
kidney and best case scenario, it's 12
 

1389
00:26:25,120 --> 00:26:27,029
kidney and best case scenario, it's 12
years and you're on dialysis again. You

1390
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:27,039
years and you're on dialysis again. You
 

1391
00:26:27,039 --> 00:26:29,110
years and you're on dialysis again. You
will never have a normal life. No, it's

1392
00:26:29,110 --> 00:26:29,120
will never have a normal life. No, it's
 

1393
00:26:29,120 --> 00:26:31,510
will never have a normal life. No, it's
actually that you haven't been heard,

1394
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:31,520
actually that you haven't been heard,
 

1395
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,350
actually that you haven't been heard,
that you've been gaslit, that you've

1396
00:26:33,350 --> 00:26:33,360
that you've been gaslit, that you've
 

1397
00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:36,070
that you've been gaslit, that you've
been you've been treated like you're a

1398
00:26:36,070 --> 00:26:36,080
been you've been treated like you're a
 

1399
00:26:36,080 --> 00:26:39,430
been you've been treated like you're a
modern-day leper. And I am ashamed when

1400
00:26:39,430 --> 00:26:39,440
modern-day leper. And I am ashamed when
 

1401
00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,510
modern-day leper. And I am ashamed when
I hear these stories. I am ashamed that

1402
00:26:43,510 --> 00:26:43,520
I hear these stories. I am ashamed that
 

1403
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,310
I hear these stories. I am ashamed that
these that the most traumatic thing, you

1404
00:26:46,310 --> 00:26:46,320
these that the most traumatic thing, you
 

1405
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,190
these that the most traumatic thing, you
know, people have been traumatized by

1406
00:26:49,190 --> 00:26:49,200
know, people have been traumatized by
 

1407
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:52,230
know, people have been traumatized by
filling in our form.

1408
00:26:52,230 --> 00:26:52,240
filling in our form.
 

1409
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:53,510
filling in our form.
Like we've gotten a whole bunch of

1410
00:26:53,510 --> 00:26:53,520
Like we've gotten a whole bunch of
 

1411
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,630
Like we've gotten a whole bunch of
feedback. We we have a very simple form

1412
00:26:56,630 --> 00:26:56,640
feedback. We we have a very simple form
 

1413
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:58,950
feedback. We we have a very simple form
on our website and then once we get

1414
00:26:58,950 --> 00:26:58,960
on our website and then once we get
 

1415
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,710
on our website and then once we get
that, our system sends you a more

1416
00:27:00,710 --> 00:27:00,720
that, our system sends you a more
 

1417
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:02,710
that, our system sends you a more
detailed form so we can get more

1418
00:27:02,710 --> 00:27:02,720
detailed form so we can get more
 

1419
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,230
detailed form so we can get more
information. Like there's an initial

1420
00:27:04,230 --> 00:27:04,240
information. Like there's an initial
 

1421
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,789
information. Like there's an initial
sorting. Is this realistic for us to get

1422
00:27:06,789 --> 00:27:06,799
sorting. Is this realistic for us to get
 

1423
00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,190
sorting. Is this realistic for us to get
more information on? Well, we got a

1424
00:27:09,190 --> 00:27:09,200
more information on? Well, we got a
 

1425
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,909
more information on? Well, we got a
whole bunch of feedback on this form,

1426
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:11,919
whole bunch of feedback on this form,
 

1427
00:27:11,919 --> 00:27:13,990
whole bunch of feedback on this form,
not because the people wanted to be mean

1428
00:27:13,990 --> 00:27:14,000
not because the people wanted to be mean
 

1429
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:17,269
not because the people wanted to be mean
to us, but just even the idea of filling

1430
00:27:17,269 --> 00:27:17,279
to us, but just even the idea of filling
 

1431
00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:21,029
to us, but just even the idea of filling
in a medical form is retraumatizing

1432
00:27:21,029 --> 00:27:21,039
in a medical form is retraumatizing
 

1433
00:27:21,039 --> 00:27:22,549
in a medical form is retraumatizing
them.

1434
00:27:22,549 --> 00:27:22,559
them.
 

1435
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:24,230
them.
And then when they get the form, the

1436
00:27:24,230 --> 00:27:24,240
And then when they get the form, the
 

1437
00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,710
And then when they get the form, the
email that's on the form, it's like, you

1438
00:27:26,710 --> 00:27:26,720
email that's on the form, it's like, you
 

1439
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:28,870
email that's on the form, it's like, you
know, we may have some volunteer doctors

1440
00:27:28,870 --> 00:27:28,880
know, we may have some volunteer doctors
 

1441
00:27:28,880 --> 00:27:30,789
know, we may have some volunteer doctors
interview you because we know we're

1442
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:30,799
interview you because we know we're
 

1443
00:27:30,799 --> 00:27:32,230
interview you because we know we're
under the spotlight and people are going

1444
00:27:32,230 --> 00:27:32,240
under the spotlight and people are going
 

1445
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,870
under the spotlight and people are going
to say, oh, it's was this is long CO or

1446
00:27:34,870 --> 00:27:34,880
to say, oh, it's was this is long CO or
 

1447
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:36,789
to say, oh, it's was this is long CO or
something else. It's not vaccine injury.

1448
00:27:36,789 --> 00:27:36,799
something else. It's not vaccine injury.
 

1449
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:38,470
something else. It's not vaccine injury.
So we only want to put people on the

1450
00:27:38,470 --> 00:27:38,480
So we only want to put people on the
 

1451
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:40,630
So we only want to put people on the
stand where if their own doctors haven't

1452
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:40,640
stand where if their own doctors haven't
 

1453
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:43,110
stand where if their own doctors haven't
said this is vaccine injury that you

1454
00:27:43,110 --> 00:27:43,120
said this is vaccine injury that you
 

1455
00:27:43,120 --> 00:27:44,950
said this is vaccine injury that you
know at least some doctors that are are

1456
00:27:44,950 --> 00:27:44,960
know at least some doctors that are are
 

1457
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:46,710
know at least some doctors that are are
willing to have an honest look say no

1458
00:27:46,710 --> 00:27:46,720
willing to have an honest look say no
 

1459
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:49,190
willing to have an honest look say no
this is a real plausible thing. Well,

1460
00:27:49,190 --> 00:27:49,200
this is a real plausible thing. Well,
 

1461
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,710
this is a real plausible thing. Well,
the idea of being interviewed by a

1462
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:50,720
the idea of being interviewed by a
 

1463
00:27:50,720 --> 00:27:53,430
the idea of being interviewed by a
doctor is traumatizing people. Like,

1464
00:27:53,430 --> 00:27:53,440
doctor is traumatizing people. Like,
 

1465
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,750
doctor is traumatizing people. Like,
what have we done

1466
00:27:55,750 --> 00:27:55,760
what have we done
 

1467
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,430
what have we done
as a as a nation, as a medical system,

1468
00:27:59,430 --> 00:27:59,440
as a as a nation, as a medical system,
 

1469
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,510
as a as a nation, as a medical system,
you know? So, the fact that these, you

1470
00:28:01,510 --> 00:28:01,520
you know? So, the fact that these, you
 

1471
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:05,110
you know? So, the fact that these, you
know, that the the mainstream media is

1472
00:28:05,110 --> 00:28:05,120
know, that the the mainstream media is
 

1473
00:28:05,120 --> 00:28:07,990
know, that the the mainstream media is
against this and, you know, calling this

1474
00:28:07,990 --> 00:28:08,000
against this and, you know, calling this
 

1475
00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:11,110
against this and, you know, calling this
down, I I'm just finding the whole thing

1476
00:28:11,110 --> 00:28:11,120
down, I I'm just finding the whole thing
 

1477
00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:13,510
down, I I'm just finding the whole thing
fascinating. Do we not know that we're

1478
00:28:13,510 --> 00:28:13,520
fascinating. Do we not know that we're
 

1479
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,830
fascinating. Do we not know that we're
hurting people?

1480
00:28:15,830 --> 00:28:15,840
hurting people?
 

1481
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,149
hurting people?
And so I I want to maybe this question

1482
00:28:18,149 --> 00:28:18,159
And so I I want to maybe this question
 

1483
00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:22,070
And so I I want to maybe this question
for you then um Dean here just because

1484
00:28:22,070 --> 00:28:22,080
for you then um Dean here just because
 

1485
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,990
for you then um Dean here just because
we right now we're in the midst

1486
00:28:23,990 --> 00:28:24,000
we right now we're in the midst
 

1487
00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:25,750
we right now we're in the midst
especially here in Alberta. You know

1488
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:25,760
especially here in Alberta. You know
 

1489
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,310
especially here in Alberta. You know
Albertans are very unhappy with kind of

1490
00:28:28,310 --> 00:28:28,320
Albertans are very unhappy with kind of
 

1491
00:28:28,320 --> 00:28:30,389
Albertans are very unhappy with kind of
Canada in general. There's lots of

1492
00:28:30,389 --> 00:28:30,399
Canada in general. There's lots of
 

1493
00:28:30,399 --> 00:28:31,750
Canada in general. There's lots of
conversations going on about

1494
00:28:31,750 --> 00:28:31,760
conversations going on about
 

1495
00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,230
conversations going on about
constitutions which brings up rights,

1496
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:34,240
constitutions which brings up rights,
 

1497
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:38,230
constitutions which brings up rights,
freedoms um and the role of government

1498
00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:38,240
freedoms um and the role of government
 

1499
00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:40,549
freedoms um and the role of government
um and government quasi institutions

1500
00:28:40,549 --> 00:28:40,559
um and government quasi institutions
 

1501
00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:42,389
um and government quasi institutions
which I would argue like the college of

1502
00:28:42,389 --> 00:28:42,399
which I would argue like the college of
 

1503
00:28:42,399 --> 00:28:44,710
which I would argue like the college of
physicians and surgeons is somewhat of a

1504
00:28:44,710 --> 00:28:44,720
physicians and surgeons is somewhat of a
 

1505
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,590
physicians and surgeons is somewhat of a
quasi you know government institution um

1506
00:28:47,590 --> 00:28:47,600
quasi you know government institution um
 

1507
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,269
quasi you know government institution um
even though it it you know it's supposed

1508
00:28:49,269 --> 00:28:49,279
even though it it you know it's supposed
 

1509
00:28:49,279 --> 00:28:50,870
even though it it you know it's supposed
to be independent I think there's lots

1510
00:28:50,870 --> 00:28:50,880
to be independent I think there's lots
 

1511
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,350
to be independent I think there's lots
of overlap but it brings up the concern

1512
00:28:53,350 --> 00:28:53,360
of overlap but it brings up the concern
 

1513
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,470
of overlap but it brings up the concern
about institutions and the lack of trust

1514
00:28:56,470 --> 00:28:56,480
about institutions and the lack of trust
 

1515
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,630
about institutions and the lack of trust
and it brings up concerns for me about

1516
00:28:58,630 --> 00:28:58,640
and it brings up concerns for me about
 

1517
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,630
and it brings up concerns for me about
the role of government. The government

1518
00:29:00,630 --> 00:29:00,640
the role of government. The government
 

1519
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:04,149
the role of government. The government
took a very specific role around COVID.

1520
00:29:04,149 --> 00:29:04,159
took a very specific role around COVID.
 

1521
00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:06,950
took a very specific role around COVID.
It came out and told people, you know,

1522
00:29:06,950 --> 00:29:06,960
It came out and told people, you know,
 

1523
00:29:06,960 --> 00:29:09,510
It came out and told people, you know,
what they would put into their bodies.

1524
00:29:09,510 --> 00:29:09,520
what they would put into their bodies.
 

1525
00:29:09,520 --> 00:29:11,990
what they would put into their bodies.
It then reassured them that it was safe

1526
00:29:11,990 --> 00:29:12,000
It then reassured them that it was safe
 

1527
00:29:12,000 --> 00:29:14,789
It then reassured them that it was safe
and effective. Um and and I understand

1528
00:29:14,789 --> 00:29:14,799
and effective. Um and and I understand
 

1529
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:16,630
and effective. Um and and I understand
the predicament that MPs might have been

1530
00:29:16,630 --> 00:29:16,640
the predicament that MPs might have been
 

1531
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:18,389
the predicament that MPs might have been
in, but it's one thing for the college

1532
00:29:18,389 --> 00:29:18,399
in, but it's one thing for the college
 

1533
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:20,549
in, but it's one thing for the college
of physicians and surgeons to make that

1534
00:29:20,549 --> 00:29:20,559
of physicians and surgeons to make that
 

1535
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:23,590
of physicians and surgeons to make that
statement as supposedly experts in their

1536
00:29:23,590 --> 00:29:23,600
statement as supposedly experts in their
 

1537
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,909
statement as supposedly experts in their
field, but then for politicians who are

1538
00:29:25,909 --> 00:29:25,919
field, but then for politicians who are
 

1539
00:29:25,919 --> 00:29:27,750
field, but then for politicians who are
not experts in the field and most of

1540
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:27,760
not experts in the field and most of
 

1541
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:29,990
not experts in the field and most of
them are overwhelmed with already the

1542
00:29:29,990 --> 00:29:30,000
them are overwhelmed with already the
 

1543
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,630
them are overwhelmed with already the
workload that they have um probably

1544
00:29:32,630 --> 00:29:32,640
workload that they have um probably
 

1545
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,710
workload that they have um probably
didn't do the studies, didn't read the

1546
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:34,720
didn't do the studies, didn't read the
 

1547
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,110
didn't do the studies, didn't read the
reports. Um not that there was any

1548
00:29:37,110 --> 00:29:37,120
reports. Um not that there was any
 

1549
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:39,350
reports. Um not that there was any
actually done, but what is the role of

1550
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:39,360
actually done, but what is the role of
 

1551
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,430
actually done, but what is the role of
government in times like this? you know,

1552
00:29:41,430 --> 00:29:41,440
government in times like this? you know,
 

1553
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,990
government in times like this? you know,
wouldn't it be better for individuals

1554
00:29:43,990 --> 00:29:44,000
wouldn't it be better for individuals
 

1555
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:48,070
wouldn't it be better for individuals
and for people to um you know, make that

1556
00:29:48,070 --> 00:29:48,080
and for people to um you know, make that
 

1557
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,470
and for people to um you know, make that
decision themsel rather than to find a

1558
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:50,480
decision themsel rather than to find a
 

1559
00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:52,070
decision themsel rather than to find a
government coming down with a heavy hand

1560
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:52,080
government coming down with a heavy hand
 

1561
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,950
government coming down with a heavy hand
coercing them to do that?

1562
00:29:54,950 --> 00:29:54,960
coercing them to do that?
 

1563
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,789
coercing them to do that?
>> Well, absolutely. And I think that's,

1564
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:56,799
>> Well, absolutely. And I think that's,
 

1565
00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,029
>> Well, absolutely. And I think that's,
you know, we this could go a whole bunch

1566
00:29:59,029 --> 00:29:59,039
you know, we this could go a whole bunch
 

1567
00:29:59,039 --> 00:30:00,389
you know, we this could go a whole bunch
of different ways here. I mean, David

1568
00:30:00,389 --> 00:30:00,399
of different ways here. I mean, David
 

1569
00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:02,310
of different ways here. I mean, David
Redmond, I'm sure you're familiar with,

1570
00:30:02,310 --> 00:30:02,320
Redmond, I'm sure you're familiar with,
 

1571
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,630
Redmond, I'm sure you're familiar with,
in Alberta, is always saying that we had

1572
00:30:04,630 --> 00:30:04,640
in Alberta, is always saying that we had
 

1573
00:30:04,640 --> 00:30:06,549
in Alberta, is always saying that we had
all these pandemic responses, you know,

1574
00:30:06,549 --> 00:30:06,559
all these pandemic responses, you know,
 

1575
00:30:06,559 --> 00:30:08,630
all these pandemic responses, you know,
national, provincial, across the

1576
00:30:08,630 --> 00:30:08,640
national, provincial, across the
 

1577
00:30:08,640 --> 00:30:09,990
national, provincial, across the
country, and we didn't we didn't do one

1578
00:30:09,990 --> 00:30:10,000
country, and we didn't we didn't do one
 

1579
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:11,909
country, and we didn't we didn't do one
of them. You we put public health in

1580
00:30:11,909 --> 00:30:11,919
of them. You we put public health in
 

1581
00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:13,750
of them. You we put public health in
charge of it instead of actually looking

1582
00:30:13,750 --> 00:30:13,760
charge of it instead of actually looking
 

1583
00:30:13,760 --> 00:30:16,710
charge of it instead of actually looking
at uh ways we could actually follow the

1584
00:30:16,710 --> 00:30:16,720
at uh ways we could actually follow the
 

1585
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:18,310
at uh ways we could actually follow the
plan that had been written years before.

1586
00:30:18,310 --> 00:30:18,320
plan that had been written years before.
 

1587
00:30:18,320 --> 00:30:20,710
plan that had been written years before.
So, I I I take serious issue with the

1588
00:30:20,710 --> 00:30:20,720
So, I I I take serious issue with the
 

1589
00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:22,230
So, I I I take serious issue with the
way they dealt with pandemic response

1590
00:30:22,230 --> 00:30:22,240
way they dealt with pandemic response
 

1591
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,590
way they dealt with pandemic response
and and no one's really had a good

1592
00:30:23,590 --> 00:30:23,600
and and no one's really had a good
 

1593
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:25,190
and and no one's really had a good
conversation with that. The second's

1594
00:30:25,190 --> 00:30:25,200
conversation with that. The second's
 

1595
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:26,789
conversation with that. The second's
around informed consent. You know, my

1596
00:30:26,789 --> 00:30:26,799
around informed consent. You know, my
 

1597
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:28,310
around informed consent. You know, my
thought was always there should be

1598
00:30:28,310 --> 00:30:28,320
thought was always there should be
 

1599
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:29,990
thought was always there should be
choice on that. And if you watch some of

1600
00:30:29,990 --> 00:30:30,000
choice on that. And if you watch some of
 

1601
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:32,470
choice on that. And if you watch some of
one of the press conference, they the uh

1602
00:30:32,470 --> 00:30:32,480
one of the press conference, they the uh
 

1603
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:33,669
one of the press conference, they the uh
one of the reporters said, "Well, you're

1604
00:30:33,669 --> 00:30:33,679
one of the reporters said, "Well, you're
 

1605
00:30:33,679 --> 00:30:35,669
one of the reporters said, "Well, you're
antivax." No, I'm I'm actually choice.

1606
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:35,679
antivax." No, I'm I'm actually choice.
 

1607
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:37,430
antivax." No, I'm I'm actually choice.
People should have that choice. And you

1608
00:30:37,430 --> 00:30:37,440
People should have that choice. And you
 

1609
00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:38,789
People should have that choice. And you
don't give people that choice when you

1610
00:30:38,789 --> 00:30:38,799
don't give people that choice when you
 

1611
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,789
don't give people that choice when you
say you can't travel, you can't see

1612
00:30:40,789 --> 00:30:40,799
say you can't travel, you can't see
 

1613
00:30:40,799 --> 00:30:42,630
say you can't travel, you can't see
grandma, you can't have your job. And

1614
00:30:42,630 --> 00:30:42,640
grandma, you can't have your job. And
 

1615
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:44,070
grandma, you can't have your job. And
the list goes on and on. And you know,

1616
00:30:44,070 --> 00:30:44,080
the list goes on and on. And you know,
 

1617
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:45,590
the list goes on and on. And you know,
you see how the government is

1618
00:30:45,590 --> 00:30:45,600
you see how the government is
 

1619
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:47,510
you see how the government is
backtracking now or has been. It's like,

1620
00:30:47,510 --> 00:30:47,520
backtracking now or has been. It's like,
 

1621
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:49,430
backtracking now or has been. It's like,
"No, no, we never really said that." No,

1622
00:30:49,430 --> 00:30:49,440
"No, no, we never really said that." No,
 

1623
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,430
"No, no, we never really said that." No,
no, you did say that because you forced

1624
00:30:51,430 --> 00:30:51,440
no, you did say that because you forced
 

1625
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,350
no, you did say that because you forced
the provinces to have all these

1626
00:30:53,350 --> 00:30:53,360
the provinces to have all these
 

1627
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:55,430
the provinces to have all these
ridiculous rules. be forced a lot of

1628
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:55,440
ridiculous rules. be forced a lot of
 

1629
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,029
ridiculous rules. be forced a lot of
companies certainly if it was federally

1630
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:57,039
companies certainly if it was federally
 

1631
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,950
companies certainly if it was federally
regulated you were forced to be able to

1632
00:30:58,950 --> 00:30:58,960
regulated you were forced to be able to
 

1633
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:00,549
regulated you were forced to be able to
do that and so what happened to this

1634
00:31:00,549 --> 00:31:00,559
do that and so what happened to this
 

1635
00:31:00,559 --> 00:31:02,149
do that and so what happened to this
whole issue of choice and so at the end

1636
00:31:02,149 --> 00:31:02,159
whole issue of choice and so at the end
 

1637
00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:04,470
whole issue of choice and so at the end
of the day uh you know it's it's whether

1638
00:31:04,470 --> 00:31:04,480
of the day uh you know it's it's whether
 

1639
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:07,029
of the day uh you know it's it's whether
it's freedom of speech or whether it's

1640
00:31:07,029 --> 00:31:07,039
it's freedom of speech or whether it's
 

1641
00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:08,630
it's freedom of speech or whether it's
uh freedom of choice when it comes to

1642
00:31:08,630 --> 00:31:08,640
uh freedom of choice when it comes to
 

1643
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,470
uh freedom of choice when it comes to
informed consent and what you're going

1644
00:31:10,470 --> 00:31:10,480
informed consent and what you're going
 

1645
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,549
informed consent and what you're going
to put into your body uh these things

1646
00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:12,559
to put into your body uh these things
 

1647
00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,630
to put into your body uh these things
were severely lacking and I think that

1648
00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:14,640
were severely lacking and I think that
 

1649
00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:16,549
were severely lacking and I think that
at the end of the day you know you you

1650
00:31:16,549 --> 00:31:16,559
at the end of the day you know you you
 

1651
00:31:16,559 --> 00:31:19,510
at the end of the day you know you you
had politicians paring these these same

1652
00:31:19,510 --> 00:31:19,520
had politicians paring these these same
 

1653
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:21,750
had politicians paring these these same
responses based on what they believe to

1654
00:31:21,750 --> 00:31:21,760
responses based on what they believe to
 

1655
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:23,909
responses based on what they believe to
be true not once again having because

1656
00:31:23,909 --> 00:31:23,919
be true not once again having because
 

1657
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:25,750
be true not once again having because
she has to look at the information

1658
00:31:25,750 --> 00:31:25,760
she has to look at the information
 

1659
00:31:25,760 --> 00:31:27,590
she has to look at the information
believing public health and if you go

1660
00:31:27,590 --> 00:31:27,600
believing public health and if you go
 

1661
00:31:27,600 --> 00:31:29,750
believing public health and if you go
back to what David Redmond says you know

1662
00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:29,760
back to what David Redmond says you know
 

1663
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:31,110
back to what David Redmond says you know
public health should never have been in

1664
00:31:31,110 --> 00:31:31,120
public health should never have been in
 

1665
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,510
public health should never have been in
charge of a pandemic or didn't having

1666
00:31:33,510 --> 00:31:33,520
charge of a pandemic or didn't having
 

1667
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,990
charge of a pandemic or didn't having
some type of response because you know

1668
00:31:35,990 --> 00:31:36,000
some type of response because you know
 

1669
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,509
some type of response because you know
we could talk a whole bunch of other

1670
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:37,519
we could talk a whole bunch of other
 

1671
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,909
we could talk a whole bunch of other
things of this uh inquiry how the fact

1672
00:31:39,909 --> 00:31:39,919
things of this uh inquiry how the fact
 

1673
00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:42,870
things of this uh inquiry how the fact
that we you know 125,000 kids across the

1674
00:31:42,870 --> 00:31:42,880
that we you know 125,000 kids across the
 

1675
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,950
that we you know 125,000 kids across the
country uh failed to return to school.

1676
00:31:44,950 --> 00:31:44,960
country uh failed to return to school.
 

1677
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,710
country uh failed to return to school.
We could talk about all the lockdowns

1678
00:31:46,710 --> 00:31:46,720
We could talk about all the lockdowns
 

1679
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,789
We could talk about all the lockdowns
and what kind of financial harm it did

1680
00:31:48,789 --> 00:31:48,799
and what kind of financial harm it did
 

1681
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,870
and what kind of financial harm it did
to small and medium-sized businesses.

1682
00:31:50,870 --> 00:31:50,880
to small and medium-sized businesses.
 

1683
00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,549
to small and medium-sized businesses.
Man, these are all topics worthy of

1684
00:31:52,549 --> 00:31:52,559
Man, these are all topics worthy of
 

1685
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:54,230
Man, these are all topics worthy of
these kind of conversations. The

1686
00:31:54,230 --> 00:31:54,240
these kind of conversations. The
 

1687
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:55,590
these kind of conversations. The
conversation we want to have is

1688
00:31:55,590 --> 00:31:55,600
conversation we want to have is
 

1689
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,669
conversation we want to have is
specifically around the fact that

1690
00:31:57,669 --> 00:31:57,679
specifically around the fact that
 

1691
00:31:57,679 --> 00:31:59,830
specifically around the fact that
individuals were harmed and individuals

1692
00:31:59,830 --> 00:31:59,840
individuals were harmed and individuals
 

1693
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,509
individuals were harmed and individuals
that are now harmed deserve to have

1694
00:32:01,509 --> 00:32:01,519
that are now harmed deserve to have
 

1695
00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:02,950
that are now harmed deserve to have
right to compensation because the

1696
00:32:02,950 --> 00:32:02,960
right to compensation because the
 

1697
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:04,789
right to compensation because the
government admits they actually did harm

1698
00:32:04,789 --> 00:32:04,799
government admits they actually did harm
 

1699
00:32:04,799 --> 00:32:06,950
government admits they actually did harm
them. So I think that you raised great

1700
00:32:06,950 --> 00:32:06,960
them. So I think that you raised great
 

1701
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:08,789
them. So I think that you raised great
points there. But you know, I actually

1702
00:32:08,789 --> 00:32:08,799
points there. But you know, I actually
 

1703
00:32:08,799 --> 00:32:10,870
points there. But you know, I actually
had a private members bill around these

1704
00:32:10,870 --> 00:32:10,880
had a private members bill around these
 

1705
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:13,350
had a private members bill around these
two things around travel and freedom.

1706
00:32:13,350 --> 00:32:13,360
two things around travel and freedom.
 

1707
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:15,509
two things around travel and freedom.
And while uh conservatives supported

1708
00:32:15,509 --> 00:32:15,519
And while uh conservatives supported
 

1709
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,110
And while uh conservatives supported
this, none of the other parties in the

1710
00:32:17,110 --> 00:32:17,120
this, none of the other parties in the
 

1711
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,470
this, none of the other parties in the
house did, which would give you a good

1712
00:32:18,470 --> 00:32:18,480
house did, which would give you a good
 

1713
00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:21,590
house did, which would give you a good
indication of where people's uh stands

1714
00:32:21,590 --> 00:32:21,600
indication of where people's uh stands
 

1715
00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:24,230
indication of where people's uh stands
actually held on when it came to co 19

1716
00:32:24,230 --> 00:32:24,240
actually held on when it came to co 19
 

1717
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:26,230
actually held on when it came to co 19
vaccinations.

1718
00:32:26,230 --> 00:32:26,240
vaccinations.
 

1719
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,389
vaccinations.
>> Now you have been criticized for doing

1720
00:32:28,389 --> 00:32:28,399
>> Now you have been criticized for doing
 

1721
00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:30,789
>> Now you have been criticized for doing
this publicly and not doing this as a

1722
00:32:30,789 --> 00:32:30,799
this publicly and not doing this as a
 

1723
00:32:30,799 --> 00:32:33,509
this publicly and not doing this as a
private inquiry or um you know behind

1724
00:32:33,509 --> 00:32:33,519
private inquiry or um you know behind
 

1725
00:32:33,519 --> 00:32:35,830
private inquiry or um you know behind
the scenes. What what is your goal for

1726
00:32:35,830 --> 00:32:35,840
the scenes. What what is your goal for
 

1727
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:39,269
the scenes. What what is your goal for
doing this on on a a a more public

1728
00:32:39,269 --> 00:32:39,279
doing this on on a a a more public
 

1729
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:40,950
doing this on on a a a more public
manner?

1730
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:40,960
manner?
 

1731
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,549
manner?
You know, because I mean you are taking

1732
00:32:42,549 --> 00:32:42,559
You know, because I mean you are taking
 

1733
00:32:42,559 --> 00:32:44,950
You know, because I mean you are taking
criticism that this is antivaccine.

1734
00:32:44,950 --> 00:32:44,960
criticism that this is antivaccine.
 

1735
00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,909
criticism that this is antivaccine.
You're creating hesitancy. Um vaccines

1736
00:32:47,909 --> 00:32:47,919
You're creating hesitancy. Um vaccines
 

1737
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:52,230
You're creating hesitancy. Um vaccines
are safe and effective. Um why why bring

1738
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:52,240
are safe and effective. Um why why bring
 

1739
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,630
are safe and effective. Um why why bring
this to the public on on a bigger scale?

1740
00:32:54,630 --> 00:32:54,640
this to the public on on a bigger scale?
 

1741
00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:56,149
this to the public on on a bigger scale?
you know, I mean, I love it because it I

1742
00:32:56,149 --> 00:32:56,159
you know, I mean, I love it because it I
 

1743
00:32:56,159 --> 00:32:58,710
you know, I mean, I love it because it I
mean, it certainly, I think, exposes the

1744
00:32:58,710 --> 00:32:58,720
mean, it certainly, I think, exposes the
 

1745
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,590
mean, it certainly, I think, exposes the
the truth and you're doing it in such a

1746
00:33:01,590 --> 00:33:01,600
the truth and you're doing it in such a
 

1747
00:33:01,600 --> 00:33:04,389
the truth and you're doing it in such a
transparent manner out in the open that

1748
00:33:04,389 --> 00:33:04,399
transparent manner out in the open that
 

1749
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:06,549
transparent manner out in the open that
it allows people, you know, to at least

1750
00:33:06,549 --> 00:33:06,559
it allows people, you know, to at least
 

1751
00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,389
it allows people, you know, to at least
make their own judgment. But for you

1752
00:33:08,389 --> 00:33:08,399
make their own judgment. But for you
 

1753
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:10,470
make their own judgment. But for you
personally, why why do this in a public

1754
00:33:10,470 --> 00:33:10,480
personally, why why do this in a public
 

1755
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:12,470
personally, why why do this in a public
manner like this?

1756
00:33:12,470 --> 00:33:12,480
manner like this?
 

1757
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,230
manner like this?
>> Yeah. No, I I think it's important. I

1758
00:33:14,230 --> 00:33:14,240
>> Yeah. No, I I think it's important. I
 

1759
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,909
>> Yeah. No, I I think it's important. I
I've been doing it privately for a long

1760
00:33:15,909 --> 00:33:15,919
I've been doing it privately for a long
 

1761
00:33:15,919 --> 00:33:17,750
I've been doing it privately for a long
time. And I think, you know, that was

1762
00:33:17,750 --> 00:33:17,760
time. And I think, you know, that was
 

1763
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,509
time. And I think, you know, that was
always the challenge is I think people

1764
00:33:19,509 --> 00:33:19,519
always the challenge is I think people
 

1765
00:33:19,519 --> 00:33:20,789
always the challenge is I think people
feel like they haven't been heard

1766
00:33:20,789 --> 00:33:20,799
feel like they haven't been heard
 

1767
00:33:20,799 --> 00:33:21,909
feel like they haven't been heard
publicly. there's been no

1768
00:33:21,909 --> 00:33:21,919
publicly. there's been no
 

1769
00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:23,509
publicly. there's been no
acknowledgement from the government that

1770
00:33:23,509 --> 00:33:23,519
acknowledgement from the government that
 

1771
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,190
acknowledgement from the government that
anyone's been injured. There's no

1772
00:33:25,190 --> 00:33:25,200
anyone's been injured. There's no
 

1773
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,870
anyone's been injured. There's no
acknowledgement even of those that are

1774
00:33:26,870 --> 00:33:26,880
acknowledgement even of those that are
 

1775
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:28,870
acknowledgement even of those that are
injured that that can even actually get

1776
00:33:28,870 --> 00:33:28,880
injured that that can even actually get
 

1777
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,870
injured that that can even actually get
access for the program. So, I think

1778
00:33:30,870 --> 00:33:30,880
access for the program. So, I think
 

1779
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,430
access for the program. So, I think
probably we I think we're in a a sweet

1780
00:33:33,430 --> 00:33:33,440
probably we I think we're in a a sweet
 

1781
00:33:33,440 --> 00:33:35,590
probably we I think we're in a a sweet
spot. We're in the right spot because we

1782
00:33:35,590 --> 00:33:35,600
spot. We're in the right spot because we
 

1783
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,590
spot. We're in the right spot because we
certainly have more pro freedom people

1784
00:33:37,590 --> 00:33:37,600
certainly have more pro freedom people
 

1785
00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:40,470
certainly have more pro freedom people
that say it doesn't go far enough. Uh

1786
00:33:40,470 --> 00:33:40,480
that say it doesn't go far enough. Uh
 

1787
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,389
that say it doesn't go far enough. Uh
and we've got a we've got, you know,

1788
00:33:42,389 --> 00:33:42,399
and we've got a we've got, you know,
 

1789
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:43,909
and we've got a we've got, you know,
political people that say you've gone

1790
00:33:43,909 --> 00:33:43,919
political people that say you've gone
 

1791
00:33:43,919 --> 00:33:45,909
political people that say you've gone
too far. So, if you're being criticized

1792
00:33:45,909 --> 00:33:45,919
too far. So, if you're being criticized
 

1793
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:47,830
too far. So, if you're being criticized
for both sides, maybe you're actually

1794
00:33:47,830 --> 00:33:47,840
for both sides, maybe you're actually
 

1795
00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,669
for both sides, maybe you're actually
doing the right thing. I like I I'll say

1796
00:33:49,669 --> 00:33:49,679
doing the right thing. I like I I'll say
 

1797
00:33:49,679 --> 00:33:51,350
doing the right thing. I like I I'll say
it again like I think there should be

1798
00:33:51,350 --> 00:33:51,360
it again like I think there should be
 

1799
00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,190
it again like I think there should be
more of an inquir that goes further with

1800
00:33:53,190 --> 00:33:53,200
more of an inquir that goes further with
 

1801
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,430
more of an inquir that goes further with
a whole host of topics. As a member of

1802
00:33:55,430 --> 00:33:55,440
a whole host of topics. As a member of
 

1803
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,110
a whole host of topics. As a member of
parliament, it is my job to listen to

1804
00:33:57,110 --> 00:33:57,120
parliament, it is my job to listen to
 

1805
00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:58,870
parliament, it is my job to listen to
people and advocate for them on behalf

1806
00:33:58,870 --> 00:33:58,880
people and advocate for them on behalf
 

1807
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:00,470
people and advocate for them on behalf
of their programs. This is what I'm

1808
00:34:00,470 --> 00:34:00,480
of their programs. This is what I'm
 

1809
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,470
of their programs. This is what I'm
doing. And I think it's so important to

1810
00:34:02,470 --> 00:34:02,480
doing. And I think it's so important to
 

1811
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:04,789
doing. And I think it's so important to
have this publicly because so many

1812
00:34:04,789 --> 00:34:04,799
have this publicly because so many
 

1813
00:34:04,799 --> 00:34:06,789
have this publicly because so many
people feel they're alone. They feel

1814
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:06,799
people feel they're alone. They feel
 

1815
00:34:06,799 --> 00:34:07,990
people feel they're alone. They feel
like they're alone because they haven't

1816
00:34:07,990 --> 00:34:08,000
like they're alone because they haven't
 

1817
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,510
like they're alone because they haven't
been allowed to have this conversation.

1818
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:09,520
been allowed to have this conversation.
 

1819
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:10,950
been allowed to have this conversation.
A lot of people can't even have this

1820
00:34:10,950 --> 00:34:10,960
A lot of people can't even have this
 

1821
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,869
A lot of people can't even have this
conversation with their own families,

1822
00:34:12,869 --> 00:34:12,879
conversation with their own families,
 

1823
00:34:12,879 --> 00:34:14,869
conversation with their own families,
you know. So, it depends on what family

1824
00:34:14,869 --> 00:34:14,879
you know. So, it depends on what family
 

1825
00:34:14,879 --> 00:34:16,069
you know. So, it depends on what family
you were raised in whether you could

1826
00:34:16,069 --> 00:34:16,079
you were raised in whether you could
 

1827
00:34:16,079 --> 00:34:17,990
you were raised in whether you could
have this conversation. And I think that

1828
00:34:17,990 --> 00:34:18,000
have this conversation. And I think that
 

1829
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,270
have this conversation. And I think that
by saying this publicly, what people are

1830
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:21,280
by saying this publicly, what people are
 

1831
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,109
by saying this publicly, what people are
going to begin to realize across this

1832
00:34:23,109 --> 00:34:23,119
going to begin to realize across this
 

1833
00:34:23,119 --> 00:34:25,109
going to begin to realize across this
country is that you know what, I am not

1834
00:34:25,109 --> 00:34:25,119
country is that you know what, I am not
 

1835
00:34:25,119 --> 00:34:26,790
country is that you know what, I am not
alone. There's actually people going

1836
00:34:26,790 --> 00:34:26,800
alone. There's actually people going
 

1837
00:34:26,800 --> 00:34:28,710
alone. There's actually people going
through some of the similar things. And

1838
00:34:28,710 --> 00:34:28,720
through some of the similar things. And
 

1839
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,030
through some of the similar things. And
I thought that that was only me. And

1840
00:34:31,030 --> 00:34:31,040
I thought that that was only me. And
 

1841
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:32,790
I thought that that was only me. And
there's not a chance on earth we can

1842
00:34:32,790 --> 00:34:32,800
there's not a chance on earth we can
 

1843
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:34,869
there's not a chance on earth we can
begin the healing process if people

1844
00:34:34,869 --> 00:34:34,879
begin the healing process if people
 

1845
00:34:34,879 --> 00:34:37,750
begin the healing process if people
can't feel at the very least that they

1846
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:37,760
can't feel at the very least that they
 

1847
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:39,589
can't feel at the very least that they
are being heard. And so that's really

1848
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:39,599
are being heard. And so that's really
 

1849
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,030
are being heard. And so that's really
what I'm hoping to accomplish that

1850
00:34:41,030 --> 00:34:41,040
what I'm hoping to accomplish that
 

1851
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,669
what I'm hoping to accomplish that
people will be heard. people then we can

1852
00:34:43,669 --> 00:34:43,679
people will be heard. people then we can
 

1853
00:34:43,679 --> 00:34:45,270
people will be heard. people then we can
put some pressure on the government and

1854
00:34:45,270 --> 00:34:45,280
put some pressure on the government and
 

1855
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,790
put some pressure on the government and
you know when I go back to the house to

1856
00:34:46,790 --> 00:34:46,800
you know when I go back to the house to
 

1857
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,950
you know when I go back to the house to
say this is what I heard we need to do a

1858
00:34:48,950 --> 00:34:48,960
say this is what I heard we need to do a
 

1859
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:50,230
say this is what I heard we need to do a
better job with the vaccine injury

1860
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:50,240
better job with the vaccine injury
 

1861
00:34:50,240 --> 00:34:52,389
better job with the vaccine injury
support program and then you know if

1862
00:34:52,389 --> 00:34:52,399
support program and then you know if
 

1863
00:34:52,399 --> 00:34:54,389
support program and then you know if
enough people want to continue this

1864
00:34:54,389 --> 00:34:54,399
enough people want to continue this
 

1865
00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:56,230
enough people want to continue this
conversation it's really going to be

1866
00:34:56,230 --> 00:34:56,240
conversation it's really going to be
 

1867
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:57,910
conversation it's really going to be
people that are going to need to demand

1868
00:34:57,910 --> 00:34:57,920
people that are going to need to demand
 

1869
00:34:57,920 --> 00:34:59,430
people that are going to need to demand
more from their government right at the

1870
00:34:59,430 --> 00:34:59,440
more from their government right at the
 

1871
00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:01,510
more from their government right at the
end of the day government always goes

1872
00:35:01,510 --> 00:35:01,520
end of the day government always goes
 

1873
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:04,470
end of the day government always goes
where people force them to go government

1874
00:35:04,470 --> 00:35:04,480
where people force them to go government
 

1875
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:06,230
where people force them to go government
always goes where you know the most

1876
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:06,240
always goes where you know the most
 

1877
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,310
always goes where you know the most
amount of noise is being made and so I

1878
00:35:08,310 --> 00:35:08,320
amount of noise is being made and so I
 

1879
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,069
amount of noise is being made and so I
think if we can start having that

1880
00:35:10,069 --> 00:35:10,079
think if we can start having that
 

1881
00:35:10,079 --> 00:35:13,109
think if we can start having that
conversation I hope that this is not the

1882
00:35:13,109 --> 00:35:13,119
conversation I hope that this is not the
 

1883
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:15,270
conversation I hope that this is not the
end but it is the beginning of a

1884
00:35:15,270 --> 00:35:15,280
end but it is the beginning of a
 

1885
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,510
end but it is the beginning of a
conversation that the general public can

1886
00:35:17,510 --> 00:35:17,520
conversation that the general public can
 

1887
00:35:17,520 --> 00:35:19,910
conversation that the general public can
have as we move over time. So with that

1888
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:19,920
have as we move over time. So with that
 

1889
00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:22,390
have as we move over time. So with that
in mind then what is the outcome that

1890
00:35:22,390 --> 00:35:22,400
in mind then what is the outcome that
 

1891
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,109
in mind then what is the outcome that
you would like to see as a direct result

1892
00:35:25,109 --> 00:35:25,119
you would like to see as a direct result
 

1893
00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:28,950
you would like to see as a direct result
of the inquiry?

1894
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:28,960
of the inquiry?
 

1895
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:30,630
of the inquiry?
>> Two things that people will continue to

1896
00:35:30,630 --> 00:35:30,640
>> Two things that people will continue to
 

1897
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,870
>> Two things that people will continue to
have this conversation they'll feel like

1898
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:32,880
have this conversation they'll feel like
 

1899
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,030
have this conversation they'll feel like
they have permission to speak publicly

1900
00:35:35,030 --> 00:35:35,040
they have permission to speak publicly
 

1901
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,630
they have permission to speak publicly
about their injuries and about what has

1902
00:35:36,630 --> 00:35:36,640
about their injuries and about what has
 

1903
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,190
about their injuries and about what has
happened that we encourage doctors

1904
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:39,200
happened that we encourage doctors
 

1905
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,230
happened that we encourage doctors
journalists politicians all the above to

1906
00:35:42,230 --> 00:35:42,240
journalists politicians all the above to
 

1907
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,910
journalists politicians all the above to
have this conversation that they've been

1908
00:35:43,910 --> 00:35:43,920
have this conversation that they've been
 

1909
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,270
have this conversation that they've been
afraid to have over the last couple

1910
00:35:45,270 --> 00:35:45,280
afraid to have over the last couple
 

1911
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,950
afraid to have over the last couple
years. and that the government would

1912
00:35:46,950 --> 00:35:46,960
years. and that the government would
 

1913
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,950
years. and that the government would
realize that they there's more people

1914
00:35:48,950 --> 00:35:48,960
realize that they there's more people
 

1915
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,349
realize that they there's more people
injured than they than they've admitted

1916
00:35:51,349 --> 00:35:51,359
injured than they than they've admitted
 

1917
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:53,430
injured than they than they've admitted
and quite frankly there needs to be more

1918
00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:53,440
and quite frankly there needs to be more
 

1919
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,589
and quite frankly there needs to be more
money in the new iteration of whatever

1920
00:35:55,589 --> 00:35:55,599
money in the new iteration of whatever
 

1921
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,829
money in the new iteration of whatever
that vaccine injury support program is

1922
00:35:57,829 --> 00:35:57,839
that vaccine injury support program is
 

1923
00:35:57,839 --> 00:35:59,589
that vaccine injury support program is
going to look like and so they need to

1924
00:35:59,589 --> 00:35:59,599
going to look like and so they need to
 

1925
00:35:59,599 --> 00:36:01,430
going to look like and so they need to
do a better job and need to simplify the

1926
00:36:01,430 --> 00:36:01,440
do a better job and need to simplify the
 

1927
00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:04,470
do a better job and need to simplify the
process of people being able to apply to

1928
00:36:04,470 --> 00:36:04,480
process of people being able to apply to
 

1929
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:06,950
process of people being able to apply to
get access to that. Now Sean, for you

1930
00:36:06,950 --> 00:36:06,960
get access to that. Now Sean, for you
 

1931
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:10,470
get access to that. Now Sean, for you
there's legal implications in what um

1932
00:36:10,470 --> 00:36:10,480
there's legal implications in what um
 

1933
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,870
there's legal implications in what um
Dean just said because you know if the

1934
00:36:12,870 --> 00:36:12,880
Dean just said because you know if the
 

1935
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,270
Dean just said because you know if the
government is going to acknowledge that

1936
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:15,280
government is going to acknowledge that
 

1937
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,710
government is going to acknowledge that
there's been more uh harm done than you

1938
00:36:18,710 --> 00:36:18,720
there's been more uh harm done than you
 

1939
00:36:18,720 --> 00:36:20,710
there's been more uh harm done than you
know they're admitting or willing to

1940
00:36:20,710 --> 00:36:20,720
know they're admitting or willing to
 

1941
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:23,510
know they're admitting or willing to
accept um you know that that means that

1942
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:23,520
accept um you know that that means that
 

1943
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:25,349
accept um you know that that means that
we do have to increase funding for

1944
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:25,359
we do have to increase funding for
 

1945
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:28,630
we do have to increase funding for
vaccine injured uh you know programs and

1946
00:36:28,630 --> 00:36:28,640
vaccine injured uh you know programs and
 

1947
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,230
vaccine injured uh you know programs and
those types of things and you know

1948
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:30,240
those types of things and you know
 

1949
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,230
those types of things and you know
what's the likelihood I mean you've been

1950
00:36:32,230 --> 00:36:32,240
what's the likelihood I mean you've been
 

1951
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:33,910
what's the likelihood I mean you've been
working in the health industry for a

1952
00:36:33,910 --> 00:36:33,920
working in the health industry for a
 

1953
00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:36,310
working in the health industry for a
long time health Canada and you know

1954
00:36:36,310 --> 00:36:36,320
long time health Canada and you know
 

1955
00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:37,910
long time health Canada and you know
they don't like to admit when they make

1956
00:36:37,910 --> 00:36:37,920
they don't like to admit when they make
 

1957
00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:41,430
they don't like to admit when they make
mistakes and you know there's con Dean's

1958
00:36:41,430 --> 00:36:41,440
mistakes and you know there's con Dean's
 

1959
00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,750
mistakes and you know there's con Dean's
smiling because that's just it

1960
00:36:43,750 --> 00:36:43,760
smiling because that's just it
 

1961
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:45,750
smiling because that's just it
government does not like to admit

1962
00:36:45,750 --> 00:36:45,760
government does not like to admit
 

1963
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:47,190
government does not like to admit
government doesn't like admitting when

1964
00:36:47,190 --> 00:36:47,200
government doesn't like admitting when
 

1965
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,230
government doesn't like admitting when
they're wrong I don't understand

1966
00:36:50,230 --> 00:36:50,240
they're wrong I don't understand
 

1967
00:36:50,240 --> 00:36:52,630
they're wrong I don't understand
>> not just at health Canada in every area

1968
00:36:52,630 --> 00:36:52,640
>> not just at health Canada in every area
 

1969
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:53,829
>> not just at health Canada in every area
every

1970
00:36:53,829 --> 00:36:53,839
every
 

1971
00:36:53,839 --> 00:36:56,950
every
>> if we want to talk legal consequences um

1972
00:36:56,950 --> 00:36:56,960
>> if we want to talk legal consequences um
 

1973
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,190
>> if we want to talk legal consequences um
Nine I I don't think we can even

1974
00:36:59,190 --> 00:36:59,200
Nine I I don't think we can even
 

1975
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:01,349
Nine I I don't think we can even
understand what potential legal

1976
00:37:01,349 --> 00:37:01,359
understand what potential legal
 

1977
00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:02,870
understand what potential legal
consequences

1978
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:02,880
consequences
 

1979
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,910
consequences
there are because Um

1980
00:37:05,910 --> 00:37:05,920
there are because Um
 

1981
00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,670
there are because Um
there was something bigger than COVID

1982
00:37:07,670 --> 00:37:07,680
there was something bigger than COVID
 

1983
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:09,670
there was something bigger than COVID
happening here. Like let's just even

1984
00:37:09,670 --> 00:37:09,680
happening here. Like let's just even
 

1985
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:12,230
happening here. Like let's just even
talk, you know, about Dr. Hoff

1986
00:37:12,230 --> 00:37:12,240
talk, you know, about Dr. Hoff
 

1987
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:15,589
talk, you know, about Dr. Hoff
submitting 14 um adverse reactions.

1988
00:37:15,589 --> 00:37:15,599
submitting 14 um adverse reactions.
 

1989
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:17,109
submitting 14 um adverse reactions.
Precoid

1990
00:37:17,109 --> 00:37:17,119
Precoid
 

1991
00:37:17,119 --> 00:37:19,109
Precoid
like the adverse reaction reporting

1992
00:37:19,109 --> 00:37:19,119
like the adverse reaction reporting
 

1993
00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:21,990
like the adverse reaction reporting
system is meant to be an early alert.

1994
00:37:21,990 --> 00:37:22,000
system is meant to be an early alert.
 

1995
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:25,829
system is meant to be an early alert.
It's meant to be very easy to file and

1996
00:37:25,829 --> 00:37:25,839
It's meant to be very easy to file and
 

1997
00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:27,589
It's meant to be very easy to file and
easily accessible because it's meant to

1998
00:37:27,589 --> 00:37:27,599
easily accessible because it's meant to
 

1999
00:37:27,599 --> 00:37:29,990
easily accessible because it's meant to
be just an early warning. Adverse

2000
00:37:29,990 --> 00:37:30,000
be just an early warning. Adverse
 

2001
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:31,829
be just an early warning. Adverse
reaction reports aren't meant to show

2002
00:37:31,829 --> 00:37:31,839
reaction reports aren't meant to show
 

2003
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:33,510
reaction reports aren't meant to show
causation or anything. They're just to

2004
00:37:33,510 --> 00:37:33,520
causation or anything. They're just to
 

2005
00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,510
causation or anything. They're just to
say, "Oh, wait. Should we be looking at

2006
00:37:35,510 --> 00:37:35,520
say, "Oh, wait. Should we be looking at
 

2007
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:38,950
say, "Oh, wait. Should we be looking at
something here?" So, precoid doctors

2008
00:37:38,950 --> 00:37:38,960
something here?" So, precoid doctors
 

2009
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:42,150
something here?" So, precoid doctors
could submit directly to Health Canada.

2010
00:37:42,150 --> 00:37:42,160
could submit directly to Health Canada.
 

2011
00:37:42,160 --> 00:37:43,670
could submit directly to Health Canada.
But

2012
00:37:43,670 --> 00:37:43,680
But
 

2013
00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,470
But
as CO approached, before it happened,

2014
00:37:46,470 --> 00:37:46,480
as CO approached, before it happened,
 

2015
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,030
as CO approached, before it happened,
they changed it. So, in every province,

2016
00:37:49,030 --> 00:37:49,040
they changed it. So, in every province,
 

2017
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,109
they changed it. So, in every province,
you had to submit to a provincial board.

2018
00:37:51,109 --> 00:37:51,119
you had to submit to a provincial board.
 

2019
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:53,510
you had to submit to a provincial board.
Wait a second. This is a a federal

2020
00:37:53,510 --> 00:37:53,520
Wait a second. This is a a federal
 

2021
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:56,470
Wait a second. This is a a federal
reporting system. Why do you have now as

2022
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:56,480
reporting system. Why do you have now as
 

2023
00:37:56,480 --> 00:37:58,870
reporting system. Why do you have now as
a doctor have to put there's a barrier

2024
00:37:58,870 --> 00:37:58,880
a doctor have to put there's a barrier
 

2025
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:00,390
a doctor have to put there's a barrier
put in place where now you're submitting

2026
00:38:00,390 --> 00:38:00,400
put in place where now you're submitting
 

2027
00:38:00,400 --> 00:38:03,190
put in place where now you're submitting
to a provincial board?

2028
00:38:03,190 --> 00:38:03,200
to a provincial board?
 

2029
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,950
to a provincial board?
That's that's pretty interesting. And

2030
00:38:04,950 --> 00:38:04,960
That's that's pretty interesting. And
 

2031
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:06,470
That's that's pretty interesting. And
citizens used to be able to direct

2032
00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:06,480
citizens used to be able to direct
 

2033
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,670
citizens used to be able to direct
report but during CO they couldn't. So a

2034
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:09,680
report but during CO they couldn't. So a
 

2035
00:38:09,680 --> 00:38:11,430
report but during CO they couldn't. So a
decision was made. You know you're

2036
00:38:11,430 --> 00:38:11,440
decision was made. You know you're
 

2037
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,310
decision was made. You know you're
talking about the colleges. Well, in the

2038
00:38:14,310 --> 00:38:14,320
talking about the colleges. Well, in the
 

2039
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,310
talking about the colleges. Well, in the
province of Alberta, as I understand it,

2040
00:38:16,310 --> 00:38:16,320
province of Alberta, as I understand it,
 

2041
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,589
province of Alberta, as I understand it,
is basically a law was put in place um

2042
00:38:19,589 --> 00:38:19,599
is basically a law was put in place um
 

2043
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,630
is basically a law was put in place um
that direct forced all of the colleges

2044
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:22,640
that direct forced all of the colleges
 

2045
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,710
that direct forced all of the colleges
that you can't do anything that goes

2046
00:38:24,710 --> 00:38:24,720
that you can't do anything that goes
 

2047
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:28,950
that you can't do anything that goes
against public health um orders.

2048
00:38:28,950 --> 00:38:28,960
against public health um orders.
 

2049
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,030
against public health um orders.
Well, so then it became, you know, the

2050
00:38:31,030 --> 00:38:31,040
Well, so then it became, you know, the
 

2051
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,430
Well, so then it became, you know, the
College of Physicians and Surgeons just

2052
00:38:33,430 --> 00:38:33,440
College of Physicians and Surgeons just
 

2053
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,310
College of Physicians and Surgeons just
all of a sudden they're breaking the law

2054
00:38:36,310 --> 00:38:36,320
all of a sudden they're breaking the law
 

2055
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:38,069
all of a sudden they're breaking the law
if they're not ensuring that all of

2056
00:38:38,069 --> 00:38:38,079
if they're not ensuring that all of
 

2057
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:39,910
if they're not ensuring that all of
their doctors comply with public health

2058
00:38:39,910 --> 00:38:39,920
their doctors comply with public health
 

2059
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,349
their doctors comply with public health
orders. and the public health orders

2060
00:38:41,349 --> 00:38:41,359
orders. and the public health orders
 

2061
00:38:41,359 --> 00:38:43,510
orders. and the public health orders
were directing everyone to get

2062
00:38:43,510 --> 00:38:43,520
were directing everyone to get
 

2063
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:46,550
were directing everyone to get
vaccinated. Well, this is by design.

2064
00:38:46,550 --> 00:38:46,560
vaccinated. Well, this is by design.
 

2065
00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:49,109
vaccinated. Well, this is by design.
This was put into place beforehand. You

2066
00:38:49,109 --> 00:38:49,119
This was put into place beforehand. You
 

2067
00:38:49,119 --> 00:38:50,630
This was put into place beforehand. You
know, you're saying safe and effective,

2068
00:38:50,630 --> 00:38:50,640
know, you're saying safe and effective,
 

2069
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,109
know, you're saying safe and effective,
safe and effective.

2070
00:38:53,109 --> 00:38:53,119
safe and effective.
 

2071
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,430
safe and effective.
Well, you know, the Allison inquiry,

2072
00:38:55,430 --> 00:38:55,440
Well, you know, the Allison inquiry,
 

2073
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:57,829
Well, you know, the Allison inquiry,
even though the inquiry hasn't started,

2074
00:38:57,829 --> 00:38:57,839
even though the inquiry hasn't started,
 

2075
00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:00,310
even though the inquiry hasn't started,
the rules of the inquiry allow evidence

2076
00:39:00,310 --> 00:39:00,320
the rules of the inquiry allow evidence
 

2077
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:04,630
the rules of the inquiry allow evidence
to be entered um into the record that

2078
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:04,640
to be entered um into the record that
 

2079
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,270
to be entered um into the record that
isn't witness evidence. and and so far

2080
00:39:07,270 --> 00:39:07,280
isn't witness evidence. and and so far
 

2081
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,829
isn't witness evidence. and and so far
the only evidence that's been entered is

2082
00:39:09,829 --> 00:39:09,839
the only evidence that's been entered is
 

2083
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:14,069
the only evidence that's been entered is
the law around the approval of the COVID

2084
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:14,079
the law around the approval of the COVID
 

2085
00:39:14,079 --> 00:39:16,230
the law around the approval of the COVID
19 vaccines. And so anyone can go to

2086
00:39:16,230 --> 00:39:16,240
19 vaccines. And so anyone can go to
 

2087
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:20,069
19 vaccines. And so anyone can go to
allisonin inquiry.com or coestimony.com

2088
00:39:20,069 --> 00:39:20,079
allisonin inquiry.com or coestimony.com
 

2089
00:39:20,079 --> 00:39:22,790
allisonin inquiry.com or coestimony.com
um which hosts the Allison inquiry

2090
00:39:22,790 --> 00:39:22,800
um which hosts the Allison inquiry
 

2091
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,910
um which hosts the Allison inquiry
website and go to exhibits

2092
00:39:25,910 --> 00:39:25,920
website and go to exhibits
 

2093
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,270
website and go to exhibits
and look at the Canadian law. And so

2094
00:39:29,270 --> 00:39:29,280
and look at the Canadian law. And so
 

2095
00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,030
and look at the Canadian law. And so
this is no conspiracy theorist. You

2096
00:39:31,030 --> 00:39:31,040
this is no conspiracy theorist. You
 

2097
00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,349
this is no conspiracy theorist. You
anyone can go to the Canada Gazette

2098
00:39:33,349 --> 00:39:33,359
anyone can go to the Canada Gazette
 

2099
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:35,430
anyone can go to the Canada Gazette
themselves. This is the government.

2100
00:39:35,430 --> 00:39:35,440
themselves. This is the government.
 

2101
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:37,030
themselves. This is the government.
These are government publications. So,

2102
00:39:37,030 --> 00:39:37,040
These are government publications. So,
 

2103
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,630
These are government publications. So,
we're just talking about the law. So, if

2104
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:38,640
we're just talking about the law. So, if
 

2105
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,190
we're just talking about the law. So, if
the law is a conspiracy theorist, that's

2106
00:39:41,190 --> 00:39:41,200
the law is a conspiracy theorist, that's
 

2107
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:42,790
the law is a conspiracy theorist, that's
fine. The Canadian government is a

2108
00:39:42,790 --> 00:39:42,800
fine. The Canadian government is a
 

2109
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,030
fine. The Canadian government is a
conspiracy theorist.

2110
00:39:45,030 --> 00:39:45,040
conspiracy theorist.
 

2111
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,670
conspiracy theorist.
So, the law in Canada was changed for

2112
00:39:47,670 --> 00:39:47,680
So, the law in Canada was changed for
 

2113
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:50,069
So, the law in Canada was changed for
these vaccines.

2114
00:39:50,069 --> 00:39:50,079
these vaccines.
 

2115
00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:51,589
these vaccines.
Yeah. You see, the government of Canada,

2116
00:39:51,589 --> 00:39:51,599
Yeah. You see, the government of Canada,
 

2117
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,470
Yeah. You see, the government of Canada,
they're antibaxers, right? So, they

2118
00:39:54,470 --> 00:39:54,480
they're antibaxers, right? So, they
 

2119
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,109
they're antibaxers, right? So, they
publish this stuff. It's, you know, it's

2120
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:57,119
publish this stuff. It's, you know, it's
 

2121
00:39:57,119 --> 00:40:00,150
publish this stuff. It's, you know, it's
clearly uncomfortable. So, our regular

2122
00:40:00,150 --> 00:40:00,160
clearly uncomfortable. So, our regular
 

2123
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:03,510
clearly uncomfortable. So, our regular
drug approval law, as flawed as it was,

2124
00:40:03,510 --> 00:40:03,520
drug approval law, as flawed as it was,
 

2125
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:07,990
drug approval law, as flawed as it was,
for any drug except COVID 19 drugs,

2126
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:08,000
for any drug except COVID 19 drugs,
 

2127
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,750
for any drug except COVID 19 drugs,
you would have to prove that they're

2128
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:09,760
you would have to prove that they're
 

2129
00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,430
you would have to prove that they're
safe and you'd have to prove that they

2130
00:40:11,430 --> 00:40:11,440
safe and you'd have to prove that they
 

2131
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,990
safe and you'd have to prove that they
were effective and it it's right in our

2132
00:40:13,990 --> 00:40:14,000
were effective and it it's right in our
 

2133
00:40:14,000 --> 00:40:16,069
were effective and it it's right in our
drug law and we have that as part of the

2134
00:40:16,069 --> 00:40:16,079
drug law and we have that as part of the
 

2135
00:40:16,079 --> 00:40:19,670
drug law and we have that as part of the
Allison inquiry record.

2136
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:19,680
Allison inquiry record.
 

2137
00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:22,710
Allison inquiry record.
Well, the Minister of Health before any

2138
00:40:22,710 --> 00:40:22,720
Well, the Minister of Health before any
 

2139
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:24,870
Well, the Minister of Health before any
pharmaceutical company submitted an

2140
00:40:24,870 --> 00:40:24,880
pharmaceutical company submitted an
 

2141
00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:26,470
pharmaceutical company submitted an
application, but it had to be in

2142
00:40:26,470 --> 00:40:26,480
application, but it had to be in
 

2143
00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:29,030
application, but it had to be in
coordination with them because two filed

2144
00:40:29,030 --> 00:40:29,040
coordination with them because two filed
 

2145
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,710
coordination with them because two filed
within 30 days of this and you couldn't

2146
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:30,720
within 30 days of this and you couldn't
 

2147
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:33,030
within 30 days of this and you couldn't
pivot this quickly.

2148
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:33,040
pivot this quickly.
 

2149
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,950
pivot this quickly.
An interim order is issued. This is

2150
00:40:34,950 --> 00:40:34,960
An interim order is issued. This is
 

2151
00:40:34,960 --> 00:40:37,750
An interim order is issued. This is
Canadian law. So, they changed the law

2152
00:40:37,750 --> 00:40:37,760
Canadian law. So, they changed the law
 

2153
00:40:37,760 --> 00:40:40,150
Canadian law. So, they changed the law
exempting the CO 19 vaccines from the

2154
00:40:40,150 --> 00:40:40,160
exempting the CO 19 vaccines from the
 

2155
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:42,550
exempting the CO 19 vaccines from the
regular process. Now, important point is

2156
00:40:42,550 --> 00:40:42,560
regular process. Now, important point is
 

2157
00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,230
regular process. Now, important point is
they could still go through the regular

2158
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:44,240
they could still go through the regular
 

2159
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:47,109
they could still go through the regular
process if they wanted to. They now have

2160
00:40:47,109 --> 00:40:47,119
process if they wanted to. They now have
 

2161
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:50,230
process if they wanted to. They now have
two choices. I can prove them to be safe

2162
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:50,240
two choices. I can prove them to be safe
 

2163
00:40:50,240 --> 00:40:53,349
two choices. I can prove them to be safe
and effective, my vaccine, or I can go

2164
00:40:53,349 --> 00:40:53,359
and effective, my vaccine, or I can go
 

2165
00:40:53,359 --> 00:40:56,309
and effective, my vaccine, or I can go
through this other process. Nadine, the

2166
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:56,319
through this other process. Nadine, the
 

2167
00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:57,829
through this other process. Nadine, the
other process, you didn't have to prove

2168
00:40:57,829 --> 00:40:57,839
other process, you didn't have to prove
 

2169
00:40:57,839 --> 00:41:00,230
other process, you didn't have to prove
it was safe. In fact, you didn't even

2170
00:41:00,230 --> 00:41:00,240
it was safe. In fact, you didn't even
 

2171
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,150
it was safe. In fact, you didn't even
have to submit your safety data to get

2172
00:41:02,150 --> 00:41:02,160
have to submit your safety data to get
 

2173
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,790
have to submit your safety data to get
approval. Can I say that again? You

2174
00:41:04,790 --> 00:41:04,800
approval. Can I say that again? You
 

2175
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:08,069
approval. Can I say that again? You
didn't even have to submit your safety

2176
00:41:08,069 --> 00:41:08,079
didn't even have to submit your safety
 

2177
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:10,630
didn't even have to submit your safety
data to get approved. You just had to

2178
00:41:10,630 --> 00:41:10,640
data to get approved. You just had to
 

2179
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:12,470
data to get approved. You just had to
tell Health Canada how you were going to

2180
00:41:12,470 --> 00:41:12,480
tell Health Canada how you were going to
 

2181
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:16,870
tell Health Canada how you were going to
get them the known safety data.

2182
00:41:16,870 --> 00:41:16,880
get them the known safety data.
 

2183
00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:18,710
get them the known safety data.
So

2184
00:41:18,710 --> 00:41:18,720
So
 

2185
00:41:18,720 --> 00:41:21,190
So
when we're getting all this messaging,

2186
00:41:21,190 --> 00:41:21,200
when we're getting all this messaging,
 

2187
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,829
when we're getting all this messaging,
safe and effective, safe and effective,

2188
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:23,839
safe and effective, safe and effective,
 

2189
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:27,750
safe and effective, safe and effective,
that's political messaging

2190
00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:27,760
that's political messaging
 

2191
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:29,990
that's political messaging
because a decision was made to encourage

2192
00:41:29,990 --> 00:41:30,000
because a decision was made to encourage
 

2193
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,470
because a decision was made to encourage
everyone to get the shot. Whether that

2194
00:41:32,470 --> 00:41:32,480
everyone to get the shot. Whether that
 

2195
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:35,190
everyone to get the shot. Whether that
was well-intentioned or not, we have to

2196
00:41:35,190 --> 00:41:35,200
was well-intentioned or not, we have to
 

2197
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,710
was well-intentioned or not, we have to
understand

2198
00:41:36,710 --> 00:41:36,720
understand
 

2199
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:39,510
understand
that when the government wants the

2200
00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:39,520
that when the government wants the
 

2201
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,589
that when the government wants the
populace to do something and wants the

2202
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:41,599
populace to do something and wants the
 

2203
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:44,309
populace to do something and wants the
populace to do something strongly, we

2204
00:41:44,309 --> 00:41:44,319
populace to do something strongly, we
 

2205
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:46,309
populace to do something strongly, we
are going to have messaging to encourage

2206
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:46,319
are going to have messaging to encourage
 

2207
00:41:46,319 --> 00:41:49,589
are going to have messaging to encourage
the populace to do that. And I I think

2208
00:41:49,589 --> 00:41:49,599
the populace to do that. And I I think
 

2209
00:41:49,599 --> 00:41:51,109
the populace to do that. And I I think
it's important for Canadians to

2210
00:41:51,109 --> 00:41:51,119
it's important for Canadians to
 

2211
00:41:51,119 --> 00:41:53,990
it's important for Canadians to
understand that that messaging which was

2212
00:41:53,990 --> 00:41:54,000
understand that that messaging which was
 

2213
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,990
understand that that messaging which was
I call it political messaging because it

2214
00:41:55,990 --> 00:41:56,000
I call it political messaging because it
 

2215
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,870
I call it political messaging because it
was to encourage the population to do

2216
00:41:58,870 --> 00:41:58,880
was to encourage the population to do
 

2217
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,470
was to encourage the population to do
something

2218
00:42:00,470 --> 00:42:00,480
something
 

2219
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:02,950
something
doesn't necessarily mean that it's true.

2220
00:42:02,950 --> 00:42:02,960
doesn't necessarily mean that it's true.
 

2221
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,150
doesn't necessarily mean that it's true.
And when you look at Canadian law so I I

2222
00:42:06,150 --> 00:42:06,160
And when you look at Canadian law so I I
 

2223
00:42:06,160 --> 00:42:08,230
And when you look at Canadian law so I I
invite everyone to go look at the

2224
00:42:08,230 --> 00:42:08,240
invite everyone to go look at the
 

2225
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:13,030
invite everyone to go look at the
Allison Inquiry record of exhibits

2226
00:42:13,030 --> 00:42:13,040

 

2227
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:14,950

it's really clear. And what I don't

2228
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:14,960
it's really clear. And what I don't
 

2229
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:19,349
it's really clear. And what I don't
understand, Nadine, is is is, you know,

2230
00:42:19,349 --> 00:42:19,359
understand, Nadine, is is is, you know,
 

2231
00:42:19,359 --> 00:42:21,829
understand, Nadine, is is is, you know,
probably any journalist spending half an

2232
00:42:21,829 --> 00:42:21,839
probably any journalist spending half an
 

2233
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:25,190
probably any journalist spending half an
hour could discover

2234
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:25,200
hour could discover
 

2235
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:28,069
hour could discover
that the law was changed

2236
00:42:28,069 --> 00:42:28,079
that the law was changed
 

2237
00:42:28,079 --> 00:42:30,630
that the law was changed
and that these vaccines did not have to

2238
00:42:30,630 --> 00:42:30,640
and that these vaccines did not have to
 

2239
00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:32,390
and that these vaccines did not have to
be proven to be safe and effective. In

2240
00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:32,400
be proven to be safe and effective. In
 

2241
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,950
be proven to be safe and effective. In
fact, the words safe and the words

2242
00:42:34,950 --> 00:42:34,960
fact, the words safe and the words
 

2243
00:42:34,960 --> 00:42:39,109
fact, the words safe and the words
effective are not even in the test.

2244
00:42:39,109 --> 00:42:39,119
effective are not even in the test.
 

2245
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:43,190
effective are not even in the test.
>> Yeah. So how how can it be that that you

2246
00:42:43,190 --> 00:42:43,200
>> Yeah. So how how can it be that that you
 

2247
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,430
>> Yeah. So how how can it be that that you
know when this was happening and the

2248
00:42:45,430 --> 00:42:45,440
know when this was happening and the
 

2249
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,190
know when this was happening and the
media is saying safe and effective safe

2250
00:42:47,190 --> 00:42:47,200
media is saying safe and effective safe
 

2251
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,030
media is saying safe and effective safe
and effective safe and effective that

2252
00:42:49,030 --> 00:42:49,040
and effective safe and effective that
 

2253
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,990
and effective safe and effective that
not a single journalist figured out that

2254
00:42:51,990 --> 00:42:52,000
not a single journalist figured out that
 

2255
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,550
not a single journalist figured out that
actually there that requirement wasn't

2256
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:54,560
actually there that requirement wasn't
 

2257
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,829
actually there that requirement wasn't
there and how can it be five years later

2258
00:42:57,829 --> 00:42:57,839
there and how can it be five years later
 

2259
00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:01,109
there and how can it be five years later
that a single journal like no no no news

2260
00:43:01,109 --> 00:43:01,119
that a single journal like no no no news
 

2261
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:02,710
that a single journal like no no no news
organization

2262
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:02,720
organization
 

2263
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:06,150
organization
has actually shown to the public well

2264
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:06,160
has actually shown to the public well
 

2265
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:08,069
has actually shown to the public well
wait a second these vaccines weren't

2266
00:43:08,069 --> 00:43:08,079
wait a second these vaccines weren't
 

2267
00:43:08,079 --> 00:43:09,829
wait a second these vaccines weren't
proven safe and effective And the thing

2268
00:43:09,829 --> 00:43:09,839
proven safe and effective And the thing
 

2269
00:43:09,839 --> 00:43:11,750
proven safe and effective And the thing
that I find interesting, and this is

2270
00:43:11,750 --> 00:43:11,760
that I find interesting, and this is
 

2271
00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:13,349
that I find interesting, and this is
political,

2272
00:43:13,349 --> 00:43:13,359
political,
 

2273
00:43:13,359 --> 00:43:15,670
political,
is okay, let's say we're in a crisis

2274
00:43:15,670 --> 00:43:15,680
is okay, let's say we're in a crisis
 

2275
00:43:15,680 --> 00:43:17,430
is okay, let's say we're in a crisis
during COVID. Well, I can see you

2276
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:17,440
during COVID. Well, I can see you
 

2277
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:19,990
during COVID. Well, I can see you
exempting them during the crisis. If

2278
00:43:19,990 --> 00:43:20,000
exempting them during the crisis. If
 

2279
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,870
exempting them during the crisis. If
we're in a real crisis and and hey,

2280
00:43:22,870 --> 00:43:22,880
we're in a real crisis and and hey,
 

2281
00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:24,470
we're in a real crisis and and hey,
we're not sure what to do. We're going

2282
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:24,480
we're not sure what to do. We're going
 

2283
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:27,430
we're not sure what to do. We're going
to relax the requirements. That's fine.

2284
00:43:27,430 --> 00:43:27,440
to relax the requirements. That's fine.
 

2285
00:43:27,440 --> 00:43:29,990
to relax the requirements. That's fine.
But we have still exempted the CO 19

2286
00:43:29,990 --> 00:43:30,000
But we have still exempted the CO 19
 

2287
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:31,750
But we have still exempted the CO 19
vaccines from being proven safe and

2288
00:43:31,750 --> 00:43:31,760
vaccines from being proven safe and
 

2289
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:33,910
vaccines from being proven safe and
effective to this day. And we're still

2290
00:43:33,910 --> 00:43:33,920
effective to this day. And we're still
 

2291
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:37,510
effective to this day. And we're still
injecting children with them. And so

2292
00:43:37,510 --> 00:43:37,520
injecting children with them. And so
 

2293
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,670
injecting children with them. And so
I don't think we're in a crisis with CO

2294
00:43:39,670 --> 00:43:39,680
I don't think we're in a crisis with CO
 

2295
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:42,390
I don't think we're in a crisis with CO
19 today.

2296
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:42,400
19 today.
 

2297
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,109
19 today.
So I don't understand why we have we're

2298
00:43:45,109 --> 00:43:45,119
So I don't understand why we have we're
 

2299
00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:48,790
So I don't understand why we have we're
injecting children with a co 19 vaccine

2300
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:48,800
injecting children with a co 19 vaccine
 

2301
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,230
injecting children with a co 19 vaccine
that to this day we have not um required

2302
00:43:52,230 --> 00:43:52,240
that to this day we have not um required
 

2303
00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:54,710
that to this day we have not um required
them to go through the regular process

2304
00:43:54,710 --> 00:43:54,720
them to go through the regular process
 

2305
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,430
them to go through the regular process
of being proven safe and effective. To

2306
00:43:57,430 --> 00:43:57,440
of being proven safe and effective. To
 

2307
00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:01,349
of being proven safe and effective. To
me that is a political decision and it's

2308
00:44:01,349 --> 00:44:01,359
me that is a political decision and it's
 

2309
00:44:01,359 --> 00:44:03,990
me that is a political decision and it's
part of what's going on. is. So why why

2310
00:44:03,990 --> 00:44:04,000
part of what's going on. is. So why why
 

2311
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,190
part of what's going on. is. So why why
is it that we we don't today require

2312
00:44:07,190 --> 00:44:07,200
is it that we we don't today require
 

2313
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:09,190
is it that we we don't today require
those vaccines to go through the regular

2314
00:44:09,190 --> 00:44:09,200
those vaccines to go through the regular
 

2315
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,270
those vaccines to go through the regular
drug approval process? Well, I think

2316
00:44:11,270 --> 00:44:11,280
drug approval process? Well, I think
 

2317
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,990
drug approval process? Well, I think
that's a a much bigger conversation that

2318
00:44:13,990 --> 00:44:14,000
that's a a much bigger conversation that
 

2319
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,950
that's a a much bigger conversation that
maybe Sean, you and I can have um at

2320
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:16,960
maybe Sean, you and I can have um at
 

2321
00:44:16,960 --> 00:44:18,630
maybe Sean, you and I can have um at
another time because I think if you look

2322
00:44:18,630 --> 00:44:18,640
another time because I think if you look
 

2323
00:44:18,640 --> 00:44:20,230
another time because I think if you look
at what's going on in the United States

2324
00:44:20,230 --> 00:44:20,240
at what's going on in the United States
 

2325
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,630
at what's going on in the United States
today with the amendments that are being

2326
00:44:22,630 --> 00:44:22,640
today with the amendments that are being
 

2327
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,829
today with the amendments that are being
proposed to the just even the regular

2328
00:44:25,829 --> 00:44:25,839
proposed to the just even the regular
 

2329
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:28,630
proposed to the just even the regular
childhood vaccine schedule, um you know,

2330
00:44:28,630 --> 00:44:28,640
childhood vaccine schedule, um you know,
 

2331
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:31,349
childhood vaccine schedule, um you know,
they're taking, you know, drastic

2332
00:44:31,349 --> 00:44:31,359
they're taking, you know, drastic
 

2333
00:44:31,359 --> 00:44:33,670
they're taking, you know, drastic
measures, I think, and challenging the

2334
00:44:33,670 --> 00:44:33,680
measures, I think, and challenging the
 

2335
00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:37,670
measures, I think, and challenging the
effect efficacy and the safety of just,

2336
00:44:37,670 --> 00:44:37,680
effect efficacy and the safety of just,
 

2337
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:40,950
effect efficacy and the safety of just,
you know, regular vaccines. um the

2338
00:44:40,950 --> 00:44:40,960
you know, regular vaccines. um the
 

2339
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,829
you know, regular vaccines. um the
timing of those, the scheduling of them,

2340
00:44:43,829 --> 00:44:43,839
timing of those, the scheduling of them,
 

2341
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:45,510
timing of those, the scheduling of them,
and a lot of the arguments are based

2342
00:44:45,510 --> 00:44:45,520
and a lot of the arguments are based
 

2343
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:47,430
and a lot of the arguments are based
around convenience. Well, it's very

2344
00:44:47,430 --> 00:44:47,440
around convenience. Well, it's very
 

2345
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:49,750
around convenience. Well, it's very
inconvenient for a a parent to bring

2346
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:49,760
inconvenient for a a parent to bring
 

2347
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:51,910
inconvenient for a a parent to bring
their, you know, son or daughter in to

2348
00:44:51,910 --> 00:44:51,920
their, you know, son or daughter in to
 

2349
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,390
their, you know, son or daughter in to
do three separate, you know, vaccines.

2350
00:44:54,390 --> 00:44:54,400
do three separate, you know, vaccines.
 

2351
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:55,670
do three separate, you know, vaccines.
You know, it's more convenient to do it

2352
00:44:55,670 --> 00:44:55,680
You know, it's more convenient to do it
 

2353
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:57,430
You know, it's more convenient to do it
all at the one time, but that's the

2354
00:44:57,430 --> 00:44:57,440
all at the one time, but that's the
 

2355
00:44:57,440 --> 00:44:59,510
all at the one time, but that's the
wrong question to be asking. The

2356
00:44:59,510 --> 00:44:59,520
wrong question to be asking. The
 

2357
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:02,550
wrong question to be asking. The
question is is does it provide less of a

2358
00:45:02,550 --> 00:45:02,560
question is is does it provide less of a
 

2359
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:04,710
question is is does it provide less of a
toxicity, less of a reaction, is it

2360
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:04,720
toxicity, less of a reaction, is it
 

2361
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:07,510
toxicity, less of a reaction, is it
safer? You know, those questions are not

2362
00:45:07,510 --> 00:45:07,520
safer? You know, those questions are not
 

2363
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:08,790
safer? You know, those questions are not
being asked. you know, they're

2364
00:45:08,790 --> 00:45:08,800
being asked. you know, they're
 

2365
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,270
being asked. you know, they're
challenging, you know, that to to keep

2366
00:45:11,270 --> 00:45:11,280
challenging, you know, that to to keep
 

2367
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,910
challenging, you know, that to to keep
the status quo. Um, and you have to

2368
00:45:13,910 --> 00:45:13,920
the status quo. Um, and you have to
 

2369
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:15,670
the status quo. Um, and you have to
wonder sometimes, you know, whether or

2370
00:45:15,670 --> 00:45:15,680
wonder sometimes, you know, whether or
 

2371
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,750
wonder sometimes, you know, whether or
not that's deliberate. And I think to a

2372
00:45:17,750 --> 00:45:17,760
not that's deliberate. And I think to a
 

2373
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:19,829
not that's deliberate. And I think to a
certain extent, you're talking about the

2374
00:45:19,829 --> 00:45:19,839
certain extent, you're talking about the
 

2375
00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:21,990
certain extent, you're talking about the
media and the messaging. And the media

2376
00:45:21,990 --> 00:45:22,000
media and the messaging. And the media
 

2377
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:23,829
media and the messaging. And the media
and the messaging was the same. It was

2378
00:45:23,829 --> 00:45:23,839
and the messaging was the same. It was
 

2379
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:25,270
and the messaging was the same. It was
the same everywhere. So, it had to be

2380
00:45:25,270 --> 00:45:25,280
the same everywhere. So, it had to be
 

2381
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:27,109
the same everywhere. So, it had to be
coordinated. It had to be deliberate.

2382
00:45:27,109 --> 00:45:27,119
coordinated. It had to be deliberate.
 

2383
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,670
coordinated. It had to be deliberate.
Um, and you're seeing that still today.

2384
00:45:29,670 --> 00:45:29,680
Um, and you're seeing that still today.
 

2385
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:32,470
Um, and you're seeing that still today.
You have a comment to that? Well, I'm

2386
00:45:32,470 --> 00:45:32,480
You have a comment to that? Well, I'm
 

2387
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,950
You have a comment to that? Well, I'm
just actually not necessarily a comment

2388
00:45:34,950 --> 00:45:34,960
just actually not necessarily a comment
 

2389
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:37,829
just actually not necessarily a comment
on that, but I just, you know, what I

2390
00:45:37,829 --> 00:45:37,839
on that, but I just, you know, what I
 

2391
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:40,309
on that, but I just, you know, what I
think is so precious about what MPD

2392
00:45:40,309 --> 00:45:40,319
think is so precious about what MPD
 

2393
00:45:40,319 --> 00:45:44,390
think is so precious about what MPD
Allison is hoping to accomplish here is

2394
00:45:44,390 --> 00:45:44,400
Allison is hoping to accomplish here is
 

2395
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,270
Allison is hoping to accomplish here is
we you I just want to refocus this on,

2396
00:45:47,270 --> 00:45:47,280
we you I just want to refocus this on,
 

2397
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,670
we you I just want to refocus this on,
you know, we we are learning through

2398
00:45:49,670 --> 00:45:49,680
you know, we we are learning through
 

2399
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,670
you know, we we are learning through
this process that we've got a large

2400
00:45:51,670 --> 00:45:51,680
this process that we've got a large
 

2401
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:53,510
this process that we've got a large
number of people that have been

2402
00:45:53,510 --> 00:45:53,520
number of people that have been
 

2403
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,750
number of people that have been
literally silenced.

2404
00:45:55,750 --> 00:45:55,760
literally silenced.
 

2405
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:59,190
literally silenced.
Literally silenced. And they are

2406
00:45:59,190 --> 00:45:59,200
Literally silenced. And they are
 

2407
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:03,030
Literally silenced. And they are
suffering terribly and their stories are

2408
00:46:03,030 --> 00:46:03,040
suffering terribly and their stories are
 

2409
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,069
suffering terribly and their stories are
they're going to change this nation.

2410
00:46:06,069 --> 00:46:06,079
they're going to change this nation.
 

2411
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:09,109
they're going to change this nation.
And I think that

2412
00:46:09,109 --> 00:46:09,119
And I think that
 

2413
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:10,630
And I think that
or I think you know if you were to ask

2414
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:10,640
or I think you know if you were to ask
 

2415
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:13,510
or I think you know if you were to ask
us what we're hoping to accomplish is I

2416
00:46:13,510 --> 00:46:13,520
us what we're hoping to accomplish is I
 

2417
00:46:13,520 --> 00:46:14,630
us what we're hoping to accomplish is I
think that we need to have this

2418
00:46:14,630 --> 00:46:14,640
think that we need to have this
 

2419
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:16,309
think that we need to have this
conversation. You see, cuz we can go all

2420
00:46:16,309 --> 00:46:16,319
conversation. You see, cuz we can go all
 

2421
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,230
conversation. You see, cuz we can go all
these different ways and I can actually

2422
00:46:18,230 --> 00:46:18,240
these different ways and I can actually
 

2423
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,910
these different ways and I can actually
get excited about um real problems. And

2424
00:46:21,910 --> 00:46:21,920
get excited about um real problems. And
 

2425
00:46:21,920 --> 00:46:25,030
get excited about um real problems. And
I think I think the real problem is is

2426
00:46:25,030 --> 00:46:25,040
I think I think the real problem is is
 

2427
00:46:25,040 --> 00:46:28,470
I think I think the real problem is is
that somehow we've arrived in a place

2428
00:46:28,470 --> 00:46:28,480
that somehow we've arrived in a place
 

2429
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,870
that somehow we've arrived in a place
where we cannot be honest with with each

2430
00:46:30,870 --> 00:46:30,880
where we cannot be honest with with each
 

2431
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:33,750
where we cannot be honest with with each
other, where we cannot disagree with

2432
00:46:33,750 --> 00:46:33,760
other, where we cannot disagree with
 

2433
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,990
other, where we cannot disagree with
each other, where we can no longer have

2434
00:46:35,990 --> 00:46:36,000
each other, where we can no longer have
 

2435
00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:38,710
each other, where we can no longer have
civil conversations. Um which is really

2436
00:46:38,710 --> 00:46:38,720
civil conversations. Um which is really
 

2437
00:46:38,720 --> 00:46:41,030
civil conversations. Um which is really
hateful. Like it's almost like we become

2438
00:46:41,030 --> 00:46:41,040
hateful. Like it's almost like we become
 

2439
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,870
hateful. Like it's almost like we become
a hateful country. And and these people

2440
00:46:42,870 --> 00:46:42,880
a hateful country. And and these people
 

2441
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,990
a hateful country. And and these people
that are vaccine injured feel that way.

2442
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:46,000
that are vaccine injured feel that way.
 

2443
00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:50,390
that are vaccine injured feel that way.
And you know, I think that God is going

2444
00:46:50,390 --> 00:46:50,400
And you know, I think that God is going
 

2445
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,710
And you know, I think that God is going
to use this inquiry

2446
00:46:52,710 --> 00:46:52,720
to use this inquiry
 

2447
00:46:52,720 --> 00:46:55,670
to use this inquiry
to basically reveal first of all to

2448
00:46:55,670 --> 00:46:55,680
to basically reveal first of all to
 

2449
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:57,990
to basically reveal first of all to
speak through these people and just say,

2450
00:46:57,990 --> 00:46:58,000
speak through these people and just say,
 

2451
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,710
speak through these people and just say,
"Wait a second. We need to have this

2452
00:47:00,710 --> 00:47:00,720
"Wait a second. We need to have this
 

2453
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:02,950
"Wait a second. We need to have this
conversation and where it leads, who

2454
00:47:02,950 --> 00:47:02,960
conversation and where it leads, who
 

2455
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:06,069
conversation and where it leads, who
knows?" Because the one thing that I

2456
00:47:06,069 --> 00:47:06,079
knows?" Because the one thing that I
 

2457
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:07,990
knows?" Because the one thing that I
I've come to understand is I really

2458
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:08,000
I've come to understand is I really
 

2459
00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:10,390
I've come to understand is I really
don't know what's going on.

2460
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:10,400
don't know what's going on.
 

2461
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:13,270
don't know what's going on.
I have strong opinions, but I know when

2462
00:47:13,270 --> 00:47:13,280
I have strong opinions, but I know when
 

2463
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:14,950
I have strong opinions, but I know when
I actually listen to other people with

2464
00:47:14,950 --> 00:47:14,960
I actually listen to other people with
 

2465
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,190
I actually listen to other people with
an open mind, I can see things

2466
00:47:17,190 --> 00:47:17,200
an open mind, I can see things
 

2467
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,349
an open mind, I can see things
differently. And I also know that we're

2468
00:47:19,349 --> 00:47:19,359
differently. And I also know that we're
 

2469
00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:21,270
differently. And I also know that we're
all the same. So that if I had a

2470
00:47:21,270 --> 00:47:21,280
all the same. So that if I had a
 

2471
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,349
all the same. So that if I had a
different belief system, I would act

2472
00:47:23,349 --> 00:47:23,359
different belief system, I would act
 

2473
00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:25,349
different belief system, I would act
just the way people that have that

2474
00:47:25,349 --> 00:47:25,359
just the way people that have that
 

2475
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,910
just the way people that have that
different belief system act. Like we

2476
00:47:27,910 --> 00:47:27,920
different belief system act. Like we
 

2477
00:47:27,920 --> 00:47:30,790
different belief system act. Like we
need to cut each other's slack and we

2478
00:47:30,790 --> 00:47:30,800
need to cut each other's slack and we
 

2479
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,710
need to cut each other's slack and we
need to start having a conversation and

2480
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:32,720
need to start having a conversation and
 

2481
00:47:32,720 --> 00:47:36,710
need to start having a conversation and
see where that goes. Now, MP Allison,

2482
00:47:36,710 --> 00:47:36,720
see where that goes. Now, MP Allison,
 

2483
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,790
see where that goes. Now, MP Allison,
what do you think that through this

2484
00:47:38,790 --> 00:47:38,800
what do you think that through this
 

2485
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,030
what do you think that through this
process we can start the healing process

2486
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:41,040
process we can start the healing process
 

2487
00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,510
process we can start the healing process
that we can actually start to rebuild

2488
00:47:43,510 --> 00:47:43,520
that we can actually start to rebuild
 

2489
00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:46,309
that we can actually start to rebuild
some of the the trust in our

2490
00:47:46,309 --> 00:47:46,319
some of the the trust in our
 

2491
00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:48,790
some of the the trust in our
institutions? Because I think trust in,

2492
00:47:48,790 --> 00:47:48,800
institutions? Because I think trust in,
 

2493
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,270
institutions? Because I think trust in,
you know, our health care system, our

2494
00:47:51,270 --> 00:47:51,280
you know, our health care system, our
 

2495
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,390
you know, our health care system, our
our politicians in general is probably

2496
00:47:54,390 --> 00:47:54,400
our politicians in general is probably
 

2497
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:56,069
our politicians in general is probably
at an all-time low. Do you think that

2498
00:47:56,069 --> 00:47:56,079
at an all-time low. Do you think that
 

2499
00:47:56,079 --> 00:47:59,990
at an all-time low. Do you think that
this is going to help that uh process?

2500
00:47:59,990 --> 00:48:00,000
this is going to help that uh process?
 

2501
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,829
this is going to help that uh process?
So I I think in the first step I think

2502
00:48:01,829 --> 00:48:01,839
So I I think in the first step I think
 

2503
00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:04,630
So I I think in the first step I think
this is uh a great first step in the

2504
00:48:04,630 --> 00:48:04,640
this is uh a great first step in the
 

2505
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,790
this is uh a great first step in the
healing processes for individuals right

2506
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:06,800
healing processes for individuals right
 

2507
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:08,710
healing processes for individuals right
they can talk about their stories and

2508
00:48:08,710 --> 00:48:08,720
they can talk about their stories and
 

2509
00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:10,309
they can talk about their stories and
feel like they're being heard. I mean

2510
00:48:10,309 --> 00:48:10,319
feel like they're being heard. I mean
 

2511
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:11,750
feel like they're being heard. I mean
the only way you build trust in

2512
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:11,760
the only way you build trust in
 

2513
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:13,990
the only way you build trust in
institutions if the is if institutions

2514
00:48:13,990 --> 00:48:14,000
institutions if the is if institutions
 

2515
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,309
institutions if the is if institutions
show up and say you know what we may

2516
00:48:16,309 --> 00:48:16,319
show up and say you know what we may
 

2517
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:17,910
show up and say you know what we may
made some mistakes and we need to do

2518
00:48:17,910 --> 00:48:17,920
made some mistakes and we need to do
 

2519
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:19,829
made some mistakes and we need to do
things differently. So I don't see the

2520
00:48:19,829 --> 00:48:19,839
things differently. So I don't see the
 

2521
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:22,710
things differently. So I don't see the
institutions uh at the table right now.

2522
00:48:22,710 --> 00:48:22,720
institutions uh at the table right now.
 

2523
00:48:22,720 --> 00:48:24,790
institutions uh at the table right now.
As I said I think this is important for

2524
00:48:24,790 --> 00:48:24,800
As I said I think this is important for
 

2525
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,470
As I said I think this is important for
individuals. Individuals need the

2526
00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:26,480
individuals. Individuals need the
 

2527
00:48:26,480 --> 00:48:28,950
individuals. Individuals need the
ability to move on or start the healing

2528
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:28,960
ability to move on or start the healing
 

2529
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,630
ability to move on or start the healing
process and feel like they can have

2530
00:48:30,630 --> 00:48:30,640
process and feel like they can have
 

2531
00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,710
process and feel like they can have
conversations. Can you imagine if we go

2532
00:48:32,710 --> 00:48:32,720
conversations. Can you imagine if we go
 

2533
00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:34,790
conversations. Can you imagine if we go
another 5 years and some of these

2534
00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:34,800
another 5 years and some of these
 

2535
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,470
another 5 years and some of these
individuals can't have a conversation

2536
00:48:36,470 --> 00:48:36,480
individuals can't have a conversation
 

2537
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:38,790
individuals can't have a conversation
with their family? Now, it takes two to

2538
00:48:38,790 --> 00:48:38,800
with their family? Now, it takes two to
 

2539
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:40,470
with their family? Now, it takes two to
have the conversation. I also understand

2540
00:48:40,470 --> 00:48:40,480
have the conversation. I also understand
 

2541
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,309
have the conversation. I also understand
that. But if they can recognize that

2542
00:48:44,309 --> 00:48:44,319
that. But if they can recognize that
 

2543
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:47,349
that. But if they can recognize that
indeed they were injured and that now

2544
00:48:47,349 --> 00:48:47,359
indeed they were injured and that now
 

2545
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:48,790
indeed they were injured and that now
they're going to have more

2546
00:48:48,790 --> 00:48:48,800
they're going to have more
 

2547
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:50,870
they're going to have more
conversations, we need the medical

2548
00:48:50,870 --> 00:48:50,880
conversations, we need the medical
 

2549
00:48:50,880 --> 00:48:52,549
conversations, we need the medical
community. What What kind of damage has

2550
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:52,559
community. What What kind of damage has
 

2551
00:48:52,559 --> 00:48:54,230
community. What What kind of damage has
this done to the medical community?

2552
00:48:54,230 --> 00:48:54,240
this done to the medical community?
 

2553
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:56,309
this done to the medical community?
Well, and then you know in terms of the

2554
00:48:56,309 --> 00:48:56,319
Well, and then you know in terms of the
 

2555
00:48:56,319 --> 00:48:58,470
Well, and then you know in terms of the
the ability for for people to believe

2556
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:58,480
the ability for for people to believe
 

2557
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,549
the ability for for people to believe
and have trust in in doctors, right?

2558
00:49:00,549 --> 00:49:00,559
and have trust in in doctors, right?
 

2559
00:49:00,559 --> 00:49:02,470
and have trust in in doctors, right?
What about the the journalism community?

2560
00:49:02,470 --> 00:49:02,480
What about the the journalism community?
 

2561
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:04,309
What about the the journalism community?
I mean, we we look at their institutions

2562
00:49:04,309 --> 00:49:04,319
I mean, we we look at their institutions
 

2563
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:07,430
I mean, we we look at their institutions
like our publicly funded uh you know CBC

2564
00:49:07,430 --> 00:49:07,440
like our publicly funded uh you know CBC
 

2565
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:09,430
like our publicly funded uh you know CBC
and some of the mainstream media. This

2566
00:49:09,430 --> 00:49:09,440
and some of the mainstream media. This
 

2567
00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:12,950
and some of the mainstream media. This
is why there's been a a huge influx of

2568
00:49:12,950 --> 00:49:12,960
is why there's been a a huge influx of
 

2569
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,470
is why there's been a a huge influx of
independent media in this country

2570
00:49:14,470 --> 00:49:14,480
independent media in this country
 

2571
00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,950
independent media in this country
because people don't feel they can trust

2572
00:49:16,950 --> 00:49:16,960
because people don't feel they can trust
 

2573
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:18,950
because people don't feel they can trust
the institutions that they have have

2574
00:49:18,950 --> 00:49:18,960
the institutions that they have have
 

2575
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:20,710
the institutions that they have have
become to. So, while this starts the

2576
00:49:20,710 --> 00:49:20,720
become to. So, while this starts the
 

2577
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:23,270
become to. So, while this starts the
process, it's a two-way street. other

2578
00:49:23,270 --> 00:49:23,280
process, it's a two-way street. other
 

2579
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:24,870
process, it's a two-way street. other
institutions have got to step up to the

2580
00:49:24,870 --> 00:49:24,880
institutions have got to step up to the
 

2581
00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:26,390
institutions have got to step up to the
table and if they're not prepared to do

2582
00:49:26,390 --> 00:49:26,400
table and if they're not prepared to do
 

2583
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,309
table and if they're not prepared to do
that there's only so far that we can do

2584
00:49:28,309 --> 00:49:28,319
that there's only so far that we can do
 

2585
00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:30,710
that there's only so far that we can do
but I really do believe we can start the

2586
00:49:30,710 --> 00:49:30,720
but I really do believe we can start the
 

2587
00:49:30,720 --> 00:49:33,750
but I really do believe we can start the
process of healing with individuals.

2588
00:49:33,750 --> 00:49:33,760
process of healing with individuals.
 

2589
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:35,750
process of healing with individuals.
>> Now what kind of support have you had

2590
00:49:35,750 --> 00:49:35,760
>> Now what kind of support have you had
 

2591
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:39,270
>> Now what kind of support have you had
internally um for this inquiry um

2592
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:39,280
internally um for this inquiry um
 

2593
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:41,589
internally um for this inquiry um
amongst your peers? I mean I know the

2594
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:41,599
amongst your peers? I mean I know the
 

2595
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:43,990
amongst your peers? I mean I know the
media has been pretty tough on you guys

2596
00:49:43,990 --> 00:49:44,000
media has been pretty tough on you guys
 

2597
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,109
media has been pretty tough on you guys
um but you know you're sitting as an MP.

2598
00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:47,119
um but you know you're sitting as an MP.
 

2599
00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,630
um but you know you're sitting as an MP.
Have you had lots of support um within

2600
00:49:50,630 --> 00:49:50,640
Have you had lots of support um within
 

2601
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:53,750
Have you had lots of support um within
your own party within government

2602
00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:53,760
your own party within government
 

2603
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:57,589
your own party within government
all levels of different parties or where

2604
00:49:57,589 --> 00:49:57,599
all levels of different parties or where
 

2605
00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:59,670
all levels of different parties or where
does it stand?

2606
00:49:59,670 --> 00:49:59,680
does it stand?
 

2607
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,349
does it stand?
>> Yeah. So I haven't had a lot of support

2608
00:50:01,349 --> 00:50:01,359
>> Yeah. So I haven't had a lot of support
 

2609
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:04,870
>> Yeah. So I haven't had a lot of support
from the uh from the governing party. Uh

2610
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:04,880
from the uh from the governing party. Uh
 

2611
00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:06,390
from the uh from the governing party. Uh
as a matter of fact I've had a bunch of

2612
00:50:06,390 --> 00:50:06,400
as a matter of fact I've had a bunch of
 

2613
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:08,710
as a matter of fact I've had a bunch of
attacks from individuals uh members of

2614
00:50:08,710 --> 00:50:08,720
attacks from individuals uh members of
 

2615
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:11,750
attacks from individuals uh members of
of of of the uh of the governing party.

2616
00:50:11,750 --> 00:50:11,760
of of of the uh of the governing party.
 

2617
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:13,430
of of of the uh of the governing party.
I have had lots of response positive

2618
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:13,440
I have had lots of response positive
 

2619
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:15,030
I have had lots of response positive
response from my own members. As a

2620
00:50:15,030 --> 00:50:15,040
response from my own members. As a
 

2621
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:16,230
response from my own members. As a
matter of fact, I've had a number of

2622
00:50:16,230 --> 00:50:16,240
matter of fact, I've had a number of
 

2623
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:18,630
matter of fact, I've had a number of
members uh you know, for example, our uh

2624
00:50:18,630 --> 00:50:18,640
members uh you know, for example, our uh
 

2625
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:21,270
members uh you know, for example, our uh
the first our lady Michelle who spoke at

2626
00:50:21,270 --> 00:50:21,280
the first our lady Michelle who spoke at
 

2627
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,510
the first our lady Michelle who spoke at
our second press conference, uh her

2628
00:50:23,510 --> 00:50:23,520
our second press conference, uh her
 

2629
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,510
our second press conference, uh her
member of parliament is Bob Zimmer. And

2630
00:50:25,510 --> 00:50:25,520
member of parliament is Bob Zimmer. And
 

2631
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:27,430
member of parliament is Bob Zimmer. And
I was I was taking her back to her hotel

2632
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:27,440
I was I was taking her back to her hotel
 

2633
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,710
I was I was taking her back to her hotel
after the press conference. She said,

2634
00:50:28,710 --> 00:50:28,720
after the press conference. She said,
 

2635
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:30,470
after the press conference. She said,
you know, Dean, I've had a lot of great

2636
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:30,480
you know, Dean, I've had a lot of great
 

2637
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:32,230
you know, Dean, I've had a lot of great
conversations with Bob. Bob has been

2638
00:50:32,230 --> 00:50:32,240
conversations with Bob. Bob has been
 

2639
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,069
conversations with Bob. Bob has been
very receptive. And I would say that

2640
00:50:34,069 --> 00:50:34,079
very receptive. And I would say that
 

2641
00:50:34,079 --> 00:50:36,390
very receptive. And I would say that
that has been the case with other

2642
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:36,400
that has been the case with other
 

2643
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:37,750
that has been the case with other
members of parliament across the

2644
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:37,760
members of parliament across the
 

2645
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,230
members of parliament across the
country, even members in the in in the

2646
00:50:40,230 --> 00:50:40,240
country, even members in the in in the
 

2647
00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:42,630
country, even members in the in in the
in the government. So, I think that uh

2648
00:50:42,630 --> 00:50:42,640
in the government. So, I think that uh
 

2649
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,670
in the government. So, I think that uh
you know, while I'm hoping for a good

2650
00:50:45,670 --> 00:50:45,680
you know, while I'm hoping for a good
 

2651
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,349
you know, while I'm hoping for a good
turnout, I also understand that members

2652
00:50:47,349 --> 00:50:47,359
turnout, I also understand that members
 

2653
00:50:47,359 --> 00:50:49,430
turnout, I also understand that members
of parliament are incredibly busy. This

2654
00:50:49,430 --> 00:50:49,440
of parliament are incredibly busy. This
 

2655
00:50:49,440 --> 00:50:51,430
of parliament are incredibly busy. This
is right after Labor Day weekend. This

2656
00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:51,440
is right after Labor Day weekend. This
 

2657
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,750
is right after Labor Day weekend. This
was uh the best we could do working on

2658
00:50:53,750 --> 00:50:53,760
was uh the best we could do working on
 

2659
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,829
was uh the best we could do working on
Sean's schedule, Teresa's schedule, and

2660
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:55,839
Sean's schedule, Teresa's schedule, and
 

2661
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:58,150
Sean's schedule, Teresa's schedule, and
my schedule, which is there's always

2662
00:50:58,150 --> 00:50:58,160
my schedule, which is there's always
 

2663
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:00,309
my schedule, which is there's always
never a great a great opportunity to

2664
00:51:00,309 --> 00:51:00,319
never a great a great opportunity to
 

2665
00:51:00,319 --> 00:51:01,829
never a great a great opportunity to
figure out what what would be the best

2666
00:51:01,829 --> 00:51:01,839
figure out what what would be the best
 

2667
00:51:01,839 --> 00:51:03,750
figure out what what would be the best
time. The reason why we're doing it then

2668
00:51:03,750 --> 00:51:03,760
time. The reason why we're doing it then
 

2669
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:05,349
time. The reason why we're doing it then
and not while we're sitting is because

2670
00:51:05,349 --> 00:51:05,359
and not while we're sitting is because
 

2671
00:51:05,359 --> 00:51:07,190
and not while we're sitting is because
committee rooms are at a premium. It's

2672
00:51:07,190 --> 00:51:07,200
committee rooms are at a premium. It's
 

2673
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:08,710
committee rooms are at a premium. It's
very hard to get access to committee

2674
00:51:08,710 --> 00:51:08,720
very hard to get access to committee
 

2675
00:51:08,720 --> 00:51:10,630
very hard to get access to committee
rooms because regular scheduled

2676
00:51:10,630 --> 00:51:10,640
rooms because regular scheduled
 

2677
00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,309
rooms because regular scheduled
committees are be going to be going

2678
00:51:12,309 --> 00:51:12,319
committees are be going to be going
 

2679
00:51:12,319 --> 00:51:13,829
committees are be going to be going
about their business. So, we're doing

2680
00:51:13,829 --> 00:51:13,839
about their business. So, we're doing
 

2681
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:15,750
about their business. So, we're doing
this the best way we can, but if I've

2682
00:51:15,750 --> 00:51:15,760
this the best way we can, but if I've
 

2683
00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,670
this the best way we can, but if I've
got any indication for the number of

2684
00:51:17,670 --> 00:51:17,680
got any indication for the number of
 

2685
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,430
got any indication for the number of
people, I got a couple emails today. I

2686
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:19,440
people, I got a couple emails today. I
 

2687
00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,190
people, I got a couple emails today. I
got one from an individual that says,

2688
00:51:21,190 --> 00:51:21,200
got one from an individual that says,
 

2689
00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,910
got one from an individual that says,
Dean, I've got uh uh somebody that would

2690
00:51:23,910 --> 00:51:23,920
Dean, I've got uh uh somebody that would
 

2691
00:51:23,920 --> 00:51:26,309
Dean, I've got uh uh somebody that would
like to participate and I've told them,

2692
00:51:26,309 --> 00:51:26,319
like to participate and I've told them,
 

2693
00:51:26,319 --> 00:51:27,510
like to participate and I've told them,
you know, I'm going to send them to you.

2694
00:51:27,510 --> 00:51:27,520
you know, I'm going to send them to you.
 

2695
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,910
you know, I'm going to send them to you.
And by the way, I'm going to be there.

2696
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:29,920
And by the way, I'm going to be there.
 

2697
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:31,030
And by the way, I'm going to be there.
They're not someone that's come out

2698
00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:31,040
They're not someone that's come out
 

2699
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,950
They're not someone that's come out
publicly and said that because they're

2700
00:51:32,950 --> 00:51:32,960
publicly and said that because they're
 

2701
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:34,710
publicly and said that because they're
probably working on their schedule. I've

2702
00:51:34,710 --> 00:51:34,720
probably working on their schedule. I've
 

2703
00:51:34,720 --> 00:51:36,470
probably working on their schedule. I've
had a lot of other MPs have said,

2704
00:51:36,470 --> 00:51:36,480
had a lot of other MPs have said,
 

2705
00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:38,549
had a lot of other MPs have said,
"Listen, take a look at this person

2706
00:51:38,549 --> 00:51:38,559
"Listen, take a look at this person
 

2707
00:51:38,559 --> 00:51:40,309
"Listen, take a look at this person
here. They've had an issue. Would you

2708
00:51:40,309 --> 00:51:40,319
here. They've had an issue. Would you
 

2709
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:42,390
here. They've had an issue. Would you
talk to Would you, you know, get them

2710
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:42,400
talk to Would you, you know, get them
 

2711
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,150
talk to Would you, you know, get them
into the, you know, at least into the

2712
00:51:44,150 --> 00:51:44,160
into the, you know, at least into the
 

2713
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:46,150
into the, you know, at least into the
queue and through the website, help

2714
00:51:46,150 --> 00:51:46,160
queue and through the website, help
 

2715
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:47,829
queue and through the website, help
figure that stuff out?" I've had a ton

2716
00:51:47,829 --> 00:51:47,839
figure that stuff out?" I've had a ton
 

2717
00:51:47,839 --> 00:51:50,069
figure that stuff out?" I've had a ton
of support from that that perspective.

2718
00:51:50,069 --> 00:51:50,079
of support from that that perspective.
 

2719
00:51:50,079 --> 00:51:52,069
of support from that that perspective.
So, you know, I'm I'm proud of the

2720
00:51:52,069 --> 00:51:52,079
So, you know, I'm I'm proud of the
 

2721
00:51:52,079 --> 00:51:53,829
So, you know, I'm I'm proud of the
colleagues that have actually taken the

2722
00:51:53,829 --> 00:51:53,839
colleagues that have actually taken the
 

2723
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:55,670
colleagues that have actually taken the
time to speak to some of these injured

2724
00:51:55,670 --> 00:51:55,680
time to speak to some of these injured
 

2725
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:57,349
time to speak to some of these injured
people and I would say that that's

2726
00:51:57,349 --> 00:51:57,359
people and I would say that that's
 

2727
00:51:57,359 --> 00:51:58,950
people and I would say that that's
probably happened with a number of

2728
00:51:58,950 --> 00:51:58,960
probably happened with a number of
 

2729
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,109
probably happened with a number of
parties across the way. And so, that's

2730
00:52:01,109 --> 00:52:01,119
parties across the way. And so, that's
 

2731
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:03,430
parties across the way. And so, that's
great. Now the next step is let's get

2732
00:52:03,430 --> 00:52:03,440
great. Now the next step is let's get
 

2733
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:06,230
great. Now the next step is let's get
these people in a public forum once

2734
00:52:06,230 --> 00:52:06,240
these people in a public forum once
 

2735
00:52:06,240 --> 00:52:08,230
these people in a public forum once
again where they can tell their stories

2736
00:52:08,230 --> 00:52:08,240
again where they can tell their stories
 

2737
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:10,630
again where they can tell their stories
publicly where they can start to feel

2738
00:52:10,630 --> 00:52:10,640
publicly where they can start to feel
 

2739
00:52:10,640 --> 00:52:13,109
publicly where they can start to feel
like they are have permission to tell

2740
00:52:13,109 --> 00:52:13,119
like they are have permission to tell
 

2741
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:14,870
like they are have permission to tell
their stories publicly.

2742
00:52:14,870 --> 00:52:14,880
their stories publicly.
 

2743
00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,630
their stories publicly.
>> So now I know we're running out of time

2744
00:52:16,630 --> 00:52:16,640
>> So now I know we're running out of time
 

2745
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,270
>> So now I know we're running out of time
here. When is the inquiry? It's

2746
00:52:19,270 --> 00:52:19,280
here. When is the inquiry? It's
 

2747
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,950
here. When is the inquiry? It's
September 8th to the 11th in Ottawa in

2748
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:22,960
September 8th to the 11th in Ottawa in
 

2749
00:52:22,960 --> 00:52:25,829
September 8th to the 11th in Ottawa in
Parliament as you've pointed out. Where

2750
00:52:25,829 --> 00:52:25,839
Parliament as you've pointed out. Where
 

2751
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:29,349
Parliament as you've pointed out. Where
can people watch? Um, are they able to

2752
00:52:29,349 --> 00:52:29,359
can people watch? Um, are they able to
 

2753
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:32,150
can people watch? Um, are they able to
participate in person? Um, give us more

2754
00:52:32,150 --> 00:52:32,160
participate in person? Um, give us more
 

2755
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,549
participate in person? Um, give us more
details about that.

2756
00:52:34,549 --> 00:52:34,559
details about that.
 

2757
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,630
details about that.
>> Can can I answer that one, Dean?

2758
00:52:36,630 --> 00:52:36,640
>> Can can I answer that one, Dean?
 

2759
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,510
>> Can can I answer that one, Dean?
>> Yeah, go ahead.

2760
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:37,520
>> Yeah, go ahead.
 

2761
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,829
>> Yeah, go ahead.
>> So, um, yeah, so just go to the Allison

2762
00:52:39,829 --> 00:52:39,839
>> So, um, yeah, so just go to the Allison
 

2763
00:52:39,839 --> 00:52:41,349
>> So, um, yeah, so just go to the Allison
Inquiry website. So, it's

2764
00:52:41,349 --> 00:52:41,359
Inquiry website. So, it's
 

2765
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:44,950
Inquiry website. So, it's
allisoninquiry.com or coestimony.com and

2766
00:52:44,950 --> 00:52:44,960
allisoninquiry.com or coestimony.com and
 

2767
00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,829
allisoninquiry.com or coestimony.com and
we can get you those to post. Nadine,

2768
00:52:47,829 --> 00:52:47,839
we can get you those to post. Nadine,
 

2769
00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:50,230
we can get you those to post. Nadine,
um, subscribe to the newsletter. We will

2770
00:52:50,230 --> 00:52:50,240
um, subscribe to the newsletter. We will
 

2771
00:52:50,240 --> 00:52:52,710
um, subscribe to the newsletter. We will
be live streaming it um, off the

2772
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:52,720
be live streaming it um, off the
 

2773
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:55,109
be live streaming it um, off the
website. We will be live streaming it on

2774
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:55,119
website. We will be live streaming it on
 

2775
00:52:55,119 --> 00:52:57,190
website. We will be live streaming it on
on various social media. I expect the

2776
00:52:57,190 --> 00:52:57,200
on various social media. I expect the
 

2777
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:58,950
on various social media. I expect the
dean will be live streaming it on his

2778
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:58,960
dean will be live streaming it on his
 

2779
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,230
dean will be live streaming it on his
social media and I will on mine. Um, so

2780
00:53:02,230 --> 00:53:02,240
social media and I will on mine. Um, so
 

2781
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:03,589
social media and I will on mine. Um, so
there'll be and there'll be others that

2782
00:53:03,589 --> 00:53:03,599
there'll be and there'll be others that
 

2783
00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:06,069
there'll be and there'll be others that
will be live streaming it. So hopefully

2784
00:53:06,069 --> 00:53:06,079
will be live streaming it. So hopefully
 

2785
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,630
will be live streaming it. So hopefully
you'll be live streaming it, Nadine. So

2786
00:53:08,630 --> 00:53:08,640
you'll be live streaming it, Nadine. So
 

2787
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:10,630
you'll be live streaming it, Nadine. So
um, and we may have a live stream in

2788
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:10,640
um, and we may have a live stream in
 

2789
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:13,750
um, and we may have a live stream in
both French and English. So sub follow

2790
00:53:13,750 --> 00:53:13,760
both French and English. So sub follow
 

2791
00:53:13,760 --> 00:53:15,829
both French and English. So sub follow
us on social media, subscribe to the

2792
00:53:15,829 --> 00:53:15,839
us on social media, subscribe to the
 

2793
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:19,109
us on social media, subscribe to the
newsletter. Um, also you know I just

2794
00:53:19,109 --> 00:53:19,119
newsletter. Um, also you know I just
 

2795
00:53:19,119 --> 00:53:21,349
newsletter. Um, also you know I just
Dean was talking about David Redmond.

2796
00:53:21,349 --> 00:53:21,359
Dean was talking about David Redmond.
 

2797
00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:24,230
Dean was talking about David Redmond.
He's Lieutenant Colonel David Redmond

2798
00:53:24,230 --> 00:53:24,240
He's Lieutenant Colonel David Redmond
 

2799
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,630
He's Lieutenant Colonel David Redmond
who was trained in the armed forces to

2800
00:53:26,630 --> 00:53:26,640
who was trained in the armed forces to
 

2801
00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:28,870
who was trained in the armed forces to
be an emergency management specialist.

2802
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:28,880
be an emergency management specialist.
 

2803
00:53:28,880 --> 00:53:30,790
be an emergency management specialist.
He's a world expert. He set up the

2804
00:53:30,790 --> 00:53:30,800
He's a world expert. He set up the
 

2805
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,829
He's a world expert. He set up the
province of Alberta's kind of um

2806
00:53:33,829 --> 00:53:33,839
province of Alberta's kind of um
 

2807
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:37,270
province of Alberta's kind of um
response uh at the National Citizens

2808
00:53:37,270 --> 00:53:37,280
response uh at the National Citizens
 

2809
00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:38,710
response uh at the National Citizens
Archives. So national

2810
00:53:38,710 --> 00:53:38,720
Archives. So national
 

2811
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:40,230
Archives. So national
citizensarchive.com

2812
00:53:40,230 --> 00:53:40,240
citizensarchive.com
 

2813
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:42,470
citizensarchive.com
he has testified under oath. It will

2814
00:53:42,470 --> 00:53:42,480
he has testified under oath. It will
 

2815
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,069
he has testified under oath. It will
change everyone's opinion of what

2816
00:53:44,069 --> 00:53:44,079
change everyone's opinion of what
 

2817
00:53:44,079 --> 00:53:47,109
change everyone's opinion of what
happened if you watch his presentation.

2818
00:53:47,109 --> 00:53:47,119
happened if you watch his presentation.
 

2819
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:48,870
happened if you watch his presentation.
Yeah, I've had Colonel Redmond on the

2820
00:53:48,870 --> 00:53:48,880
Yeah, I've had Colonel Redmond on the
 

2821
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:51,829
Yeah, I've had Colonel Redmond on the
the show here and during COVID in

2822
00:53:51,829 --> 00:53:51,839
the show here and during COVID in
 

2823
00:53:51,839 --> 00:53:53,430
the show here and during COVID in
particular actually he wasn't able to

2824
00:53:53,430 --> 00:53:53,440
particular actually he wasn't able to
 

2825
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,750
particular actually he wasn't able to
make an event that I was uh attending

2826
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:55,760
make an event that I was uh attending
 

2827
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,990
make an event that I was uh attending
and he allowed me to present his

2828
00:53:57,990 --> 00:53:58,000
and he allowed me to present his
 

2829
00:53:58,000 --> 00:54:00,950
and he allowed me to present his
information and he is just a brilliant

2830
00:54:00,950 --> 00:54:00,960
information and he is just a brilliant
 

2831
00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,950
information and he is just a brilliant
man and as you've pointed out an expert

2832
00:54:02,950 --> 00:54:02,960
man and as you've pointed out an expert
 

2833
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,670
man and as you've pointed out an expert
in emergency preparedness and you know

2834
00:54:05,670 --> 00:54:05,680
in emergency preparedness and you know
 

2835
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:07,510
in emergency preparedness and you know
this whole claim that Canada didn't have

2836
00:54:07,510 --> 00:54:07,520
this whole claim that Canada didn't have
 

2837
00:54:07,520 --> 00:54:09,510
this whole claim that Canada didn't have
we weren't prepared for this we were we

2838
00:54:09,510 --> 00:54:09,520
we weren't prepared for this we were we
 

2839
00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,630
we weren't prepared for this we were we
had a plan there was plans and they just

2840
00:54:12,630 --> 00:54:12,640
had a plan there was plans and they just
 

2841
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:15,910
had a plan there was plans and they just
threw out everything and denied that we

2842
00:54:15,910 --> 00:54:15,920
threw out everything and denied that we
 

2843
00:54:15,920 --> 00:54:17,829
threw out everything and denied that we
had ever done anything and we were

2844
00:54:17,829 --> 00:54:17,839
had ever done anything and we were
 

2845
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:21,030
had ever done anything and we were
illprepared. Um which again for me it's

2846
00:54:21,030 --> 00:54:21,040
illprepared. Um which again for me it's
 

2847
00:54:21,040 --> 00:54:22,950
illprepared. Um which again for me it's
just it's a a destruction of the

2848
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:22,960
just it's a a destruction of the
 

2849
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:25,670
just it's a a destruction of the
credibility. It it destroys trust. Um

2850
00:54:25,670 --> 00:54:25,680
credibility. It it destroys trust. Um
 

2851
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:26,950
credibility. It it destroys trust. Um
you have to believe that there was an

2852
00:54:26,950 --> 00:54:26,960
you have to believe that there was an
 

2853
00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:31,190
you have to believe that there was an
agenda here. Um any final words MP um

2854
00:54:31,190 --> 00:54:31,200
agenda here. Um any final words MP um
 

2855
00:54:31,200 --> 00:54:33,349
agenda here. Um any final words MP um
Dean Allison, you know that you know

2856
00:54:33,349 --> 00:54:33,359
Dean Allison, you know that you know
 

2857
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:34,870
Dean Allison, you know that you know
people who are watching that you think

2858
00:54:34,870 --> 00:54:34,880
people who are watching that you think
 

2859
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:37,430
people who are watching that you think
you know maybe they should hear or um

2860
00:54:37,430 --> 00:54:37,440
you know maybe they should hear or um
 

2861
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:41,030
you know maybe they should hear or um
just some sentiments of your own.

2862
00:54:41,030 --> 00:54:41,040
just some sentiments of your own.
 

2863
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,030
just some sentiments of your own.
>> Yeah. No, I I just, you know, I think

2864
00:54:43,030 --> 00:54:43,040
>> Yeah. No, I I just, you know, I think
 

2865
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,190
>> Yeah. No, I I just, you know, I think
that uh so important to be able to have

2866
00:54:45,190 --> 00:54:45,200
that uh so important to be able to have
 

2867
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:46,950
that uh so important to be able to have
dialogue. I worry about censorship in

2868
00:54:46,950 --> 00:54:46,960
dialogue. I worry about censorship in
 

2869
00:54:46,960 --> 00:54:49,030
dialogue. I worry about censorship in
this country right now and censorship

2870
00:54:49,030 --> 00:54:49,040
this country right now and censorship
 

2871
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,950
this country right now and censorship
really is about, you know, not letting

2872
00:54:50,950 --> 00:54:50,960
really is about, you know, not letting
 

2873
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:52,950
really is about, you know, not letting
people tell their stories. We see an

2874
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:52,960
people tell their stories. We see an
 

2875
00:54:52,960 --> 00:54:54,870
people tell their stories. We see an
increasing amount of legislation since

2876
00:54:54,870 --> 00:54:54,880
increasing amount of legislation since
 

2877
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:56,870
increasing amount of legislation since
CO that involves some elements of

2878
00:54:56,870 --> 00:54:56,880
CO that involves some elements of
 

2879
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,270
CO that involves some elements of
censorship. And I I think that's why we

2880
00:54:59,270 --> 00:54:59,280
censorship. And I I think that's why we
 

2881
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:03,030
censorship. And I I think that's why we
have to be so diligent. We have to be so

2882
00:55:03,030 --> 00:55:03,040
have to be so diligent. We have to be so
 

2883
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:05,510
have to be so diligent. We have to be so
we need to make sure we continue to find

2884
00:55:05,510 --> 00:55:05,520
we need to make sure we continue to find
 

2885
00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:08,069
we need to make sure we continue to find
ways to have conversations

2886
00:55:08,069 --> 00:55:08,079
ways to have conversations
 

2887
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:09,990
ways to have conversations
and tell the truth even if it's not

2888
00:55:09,990 --> 00:55:10,000
and tell the truth even if it's not
 

2889
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:11,990
and tell the truth even if it's not
comfortable. And I think, you know, this

2890
00:55:11,990 --> 00:55:12,000
comfortable. And I think, you know, this
 

2891
00:55:12,000 --> 00:55:13,750
comfortable. And I think, you know, this
is why I appreciate what you do and so

2892
00:55:13,750 --> 00:55:13,760
is why I appreciate what you do and so
 

2893
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,910
is why I appreciate what you do and so
many other independent people. You know,

2894
00:55:15,910 --> 00:55:15,920
many other independent people. You know,
 

2895
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,390
many other independent people. You know,
if we don't continue to fight for our

2896
00:55:18,390 --> 00:55:18,400
if we don't continue to fight for our
 

2897
00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,950
if we don't continue to fight for our
ability to have free speech, we're going

2898
00:55:20,950 --> 00:55:20,960
ability to have free speech, we're going
 

2899
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:22,710
ability to have free speech, we're going
to lose it. And I think that, you know,

2900
00:55:22,710 --> 00:55:22,720
to lose it. And I think that, you know,
 

2901
00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,710
to lose it. And I think that, you know,
censorship is shows up in many different

2902
00:55:24,710 --> 00:55:24,720
censorship is shows up in many different
 

2903
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:26,549
censorship is shows up in many different
forms. One of them is, you know,

2904
00:55:26,549 --> 00:55:26,559
forms. One of them is, you know,
 

2905
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:28,549
forms. One of them is, you know,
refusing to hear what people have to

2906
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:28,559
refusing to hear what people have to
 

2907
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,390
refusing to hear what people have to
say. It's just it's simple. We're

2908
00:55:30,390 --> 00:55:30,400
say. It's just it's simple. We're
 

2909
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,549
say. It's just it's simple. We're
talking about people just listening to

2910
00:55:32,549 --> 00:55:32,559
talking about people just listening to
 

2911
00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:34,230
talking about people just listening to
people. That's what we're talking. We're

2912
00:55:34,230 --> 00:55:34,240
people. That's what we're talking. We're
 

2913
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:36,309
people. That's what we're talking. We're
not talking about anything. We're we we

2914
00:55:36,309 --> 00:55:36,319
not talking about anything. We're we we
 

2915
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:38,630
not talking about anything. We're we we
wanted to be very clear. We could have

2916
00:55:38,630 --> 00:55:38,640
wanted to be very clear. We could have
 

2917
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:40,790
wanted to be very clear. We could have
done so much more, gone so much further,

2918
00:55:40,790 --> 00:55:40,800
done so much more, gone so much further,
 

2919
00:55:40,800 --> 00:55:43,510
done so much more, gone so much further,
but we wanted to make sure that we were

2920
00:55:43,510 --> 00:55:43,520
but we wanted to make sure that we were
 

2921
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:46,309
but we wanted to make sure that we were
on safe ground. And that's why we're ju

2922
00:55:46,309 --> 00:55:46,319
on safe ground. And that's why we're ju
 

2923
00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:48,230
on safe ground. And that's why we're ju
we're just listening to people. Think

2924
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:48,240
we're just listening to people. Think
 

2925
00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:49,589
we're just listening to people. Think
about that. Listening to people that

2926
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:49,599
about that. Listening to people that
 

2927
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:51,910
about that. Listening to people that
have been injured. And so I just I just

2928
00:55:51,910 --> 00:55:51,920
have been injured. And so I just I just
 

2929
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,069
have been injured. And so I just I just
people need to be so much more aware

2930
00:55:54,069 --> 00:55:54,079
people need to be so much more aware
 

2931
00:55:54,079 --> 00:55:56,470
people need to be so much more aware
that our freedoms are not always free

2932
00:55:56,470 --> 00:55:56,480
that our freedoms are not always free
 

2933
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,390
that our freedoms are not always free
and they're not always going to be a

2934
00:55:58,390 --> 00:55:58,400
and they're not always going to be a
 

2935
00:55:58,400 --> 00:55:59,829
and they're not always going to be a
given that we're going to have to

2936
00:55:59,829 --> 00:55:59,839
given that we're going to have to
 

2937
00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:01,510
given that we're going to have to
continue to to fight for that. That's

2938
00:56:01,510 --> 00:56:01,520
continue to to fight for that. That's
 

2939
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:04,630
continue to to fight for that. That's
why I think this inquiry is so important

2940
00:56:04,630 --> 00:56:04,640
why I think this inquiry is so important
 

2941
00:56:04,640 --> 00:56:07,030
why I think this inquiry is so important
is because if we don't give people

2942
00:56:07,030 --> 00:56:07,040
is because if we don't give people
 

2943
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,430
is because if we don't give people
permission to tell their stories, what

2944
00:56:09,430 --> 00:56:09,440
permission to tell their stories, what
 

2945
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,910
permission to tell their stories, what
is next? Is it going to be because I

2946
00:56:11,910 --> 00:56:11,920
is next? Is it going to be because I
 

2947
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,510
is next? Is it going to be because I
don't like what you said about A, B, or

2948
00:56:13,510 --> 00:56:13,520
don't like what you said about A, B, or
 

2949
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,710
don't like what you said about A, B, or
C? We've got to be very diligent around

2950
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:16,720
C? We've got to be very diligent around
 

2951
00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:18,789
C? We've got to be very diligent around
these things. And so that's why I think

2952
00:56:18,789 --> 00:56:18,799
these things. And so that's why I think
 

2953
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:21,190
these things. And so that's why I think
this inquiry is so important. People

2954
00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:21,200
this inquiry is so important. People
 

2955
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:22,950
this inquiry is so important. People
have stories to tell and they deserve to

2956
00:56:22,950 --> 00:56:22,960
have stories to tell and they deserve to
 

2957
00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:25,270
have stories to tell and they deserve to
be heard and that we need to give people

2958
00:56:25,270 --> 00:56:25,280
be heard and that we need to give people
 

2959
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,510
be heard and that we need to give people
permission to tell their stories in a

2960
00:56:27,510 --> 00:56:27,520
permission to tell their stories in a
 

2961
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:29,829
permission to tell their stories in a
public way, not privately. They're

2962
00:56:29,829 --> 00:56:29,839
public way, not privately. They're
 

2963
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:31,670
public way, not privately. They're
having those conversations but in a

2964
00:56:31,670 --> 00:56:31,680
having those conversations but in a
 

2965
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:32,950
having those conversations but in a
public forum.

2966
00:56:32,950 --> 00:56:32,960
public forum.
 

2967
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,549
public forum.
>> Regrettably, I think the Liberal

2968
00:56:34,549 --> 00:56:34,559
>> Regrettably, I think the Liberal
 

2969
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:36,390
>> Regrettably, I think the Liberal
government is going down the path of

2970
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:36,400
government is going down the path of
 

2971
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:39,910
government is going down the path of
censorship and uh fear. Um even people

2972
00:56:39,910 --> 00:56:39,920
censorship and uh fear. Um even people
 

2973
00:56:39,920 --> 00:56:42,710
censorship and uh fear. Um even people
like myself in podcasts and independent

2974
00:56:42,710 --> 00:56:42,720
like myself in podcasts and independent
 

2975
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:45,030
like myself in podcasts and independent
journalists who do try to bring the

2976
00:56:45,030 --> 00:56:45,040
journalists who do try to bring the
 

2977
00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:46,950
journalists who do try to bring the
truth. Um I think are under attack with

2978
00:56:46,950 --> 00:56:46,960
truth. Um I think are under attack with
 

2979
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:48,390
truth. Um I think are under attack with
some of these new bills that are out.

2980
00:56:48,390 --> 00:56:48,400
some of these new bills that are out.
 

2981
00:56:48,400 --> 00:56:50,710
some of these new bills that are out.
Again, a conversation for another time.

2982
00:56:50,710 --> 00:56:50,720
Again, a conversation for another time.
 

2983
00:56:50,720 --> 00:56:52,230
Again, a conversation for another time.
Um but you know, you see what's

2984
00:56:52,230 --> 00:56:52,240
Um but you know, you see what's
 

2985
00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:54,230
Um but you know, you see what's
happening in the UK. People are posting

2986
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:54,240
happening in the UK. People are posting
 

2987
00:56:54,240 --> 00:56:57,589
happening in the UK. People are posting
things online um and being put in jail.

2988
00:56:57,589 --> 00:56:57,599
things online um and being put in jail.
 

2989
00:56:57,599 --> 00:57:01,109
things online um and being put in jail.
some of them for, you know, terms um

2990
00:57:01,109 --> 00:57:01,119
some of them for, you know, terms um
 

2991
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:04,069
some of them for, you know, terms um
much further than more serious crimes,

2992
00:57:04,069 --> 00:57:04,079
much further than more serious crimes,
 

2993
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:06,150
much further than more serious crimes,
you know, uh that are being committed.

2994
00:57:06,150 --> 00:57:06,160
you know, uh that are being committed.
 

2995
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,549
you know, uh that are being committed.
So, it it is a scary proposition to

2996
00:57:08,549 --> 00:57:08,559
So, it it is a scary proposition to
 

2997
00:57:08,559 --> 00:57:10,950
So, it it is a scary proposition to
think that we can't even just have a

2998
00:57:10,950 --> 00:57:10,960
think that we can't even just have a
 

2999
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:13,349
think that we can't even just have a
conversation. Sean, any last words from

3000
00:57:13,349 --> 00:57:13,359
conversation. Sean, any last words from
 

3001
00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:15,510
conversation. Sean, any last words from
you that you'd like people to know or I

3002
00:57:15,510 --> 00:57:15,520
you that you'd like people to know or I
 

3003
00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,190
you that you'd like people to know or I
mean, you've been on the show many times

3004
00:57:17,190 --> 00:57:17,200
mean, you've been on the show many times
 

3005
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:18,870
mean, you've been on the show many times
and and your breath and knowledge,

3006
00:57:18,870 --> 00:57:18,880
and and your breath and knowledge,
 

3007
00:57:18,880 --> 00:57:20,230
and and your breath and knowledge,
especially as it relates to Health

3008
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:20,240
especially as it relates to Health
 

3009
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,670
especially as it relates to Health
Canada and a lot of the the issues. Um,

3010
00:57:23,670 --> 00:57:23,680
Canada and a lot of the the issues. Um,
 

3011
00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,750
Canada and a lot of the the issues. Um,
you know, they're self-evident, but you

3012
00:57:25,750 --> 00:57:25,760
you know, they're self-evident, but you
 

3013
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:27,829
you know, they're self-evident, but you
know, any any final words today for our

3014
00:57:27,829 --> 00:57:27,839
know, any any final words today for our
 

3015
00:57:27,839 --> 00:57:30,230
know, any any final words today for our
audience? Well, I I'd just like to

3016
00:57:30,230 --> 00:57:30,240
audience? Well, I I'd just like to
 

3017
00:57:30,240 --> 00:57:32,150
audience? Well, I I'd just like to
follow up on what what Dean was saying

3018
00:57:32,150 --> 00:57:32,160
follow up on what what Dean was saying
 

3019
00:57:32,160 --> 00:57:35,670
follow up on what what Dean was saying
is I and invite people to participate.

3020
00:57:35,670 --> 00:57:35,680
is I and invite people to participate.
 

3021
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:39,589
is I and invite people to participate.
Like these people um really need to be

3022
00:57:39,589 --> 00:57:39,599
Like these people um really need to be
 

3023
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:40,950
Like these people um really need to be
heard and they need to tell their

3024
00:57:40,950 --> 00:57:40,960
heard and they need to tell their
 

3025
00:57:40,960 --> 00:57:42,870
heard and they need to tell their
stories and I I promise you it will

3026
00:57:42,870 --> 00:57:42,880
stories and I I promise you it will
 

3027
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,950
stories and I I promise you it will
change their lives and let's privilege

3028
00:57:44,950 --> 00:57:44,960
change their lives and let's privilege
 

3029
00:57:44,960 --> 00:57:47,589
change their lives and let's privilege
them. Like let's all watch this live and

3030
00:57:47,589 --> 00:57:47,599
them. Like let's all watch this live and
 

3031
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:49,910
them. Like let's all watch this live and
listen to their stories because you know

3032
00:57:49,910 --> 00:57:49,920
listen to their stories because you know
 

3033
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,270
listen to their stories because you know
they are going to pay attention and

3034
00:57:51,270 --> 00:57:51,280
they are going to pay attention and
 

3035
00:57:51,280 --> 00:57:52,549
they are going to pay attention and
they're going to talk about how many

3036
00:57:52,549 --> 00:57:52,559
they're going to talk about how many
 

3037
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:55,270
they're going to talk about how many
people were online watching. And if we

3038
00:57:55,270 --> 00:57:55,280
people were online watching. And if we
 

3039
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,430
people were online watching. And if we
can if we can have those numbers large

3040
00:57:57,430 --> 00:57:57,440
can if we can have those numbers large
 

3041
00:57:57,440 --> 00:57:59,670
can if we can have those numbers large
if we can participate as a country

3042
00:57:59,670 --> 00:57:59,680
if we can participate as a country
 

3043
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,190
if we can participate as a country
that's how we start this journey. You

3044
00:58:01,190 --> 00:58:01,200
that's how we start this journey. You
 

3045
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:03,670
that's how we start this journey. You
know if we do this and nobody watches

3046
00:58:03,670 --> 00:58:03,680
know if we do this and nobody watches
 

3047
00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:05,910
know if we do this and nobody watches
then you know that's a tree falling in

3048
00:58:05,910 --> 00:58:05,920
then you know that's a tree falling in
 

3049
00:58:05,920 --> 00:58:08,230
then you know that's a tree falling in
the forest with no one to hear. So I

3050
00:58:08,230 --> 00:58:08,240
the forest with no one to hear. So I
 

3051
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:10,630
the forest with no one to hear. So I
think we all have a responsibility to

3052
00:58:10,630 --> 00:58:10,640
think we all have a responsibility to
 

3053
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:12,950
think we all have a responsibility to
watch and get other people to watch like

3054
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:12,960
watch and get other people to watch like
 

3055
00:58:12,960 --> 00:58:14,950
watch and get other people to watch like
let's make this the event that starts

3056
00:58:14,950 --> 00:58:14,960
let's make this the event that starts
 

3057
00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:17,430
let's make this the event that starts
the conversation. I see this a little

3058
00:58:17,430 --> 00:58:17,440
the conversation. I see this a little
 

3059
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,990
the conversation. I see this a little
bit as the freedom convoy, you know,

3060
00:58:19,990 --> 00:58:20,000
bit as the freedom convoy, you know,
 

3061
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:23,829
bit as the freedom convoy, you know,
during the COVID um days itself in the

3062
00:58:23,829 --> 00:58:23,839
during the COVID um days itself in the
 

3063
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:25,990
during the COVID um days itself in the
pandemic where people did feel alone.

3064
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:26,000
pandemic where people did feel alone.
 

3065
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,910
pandemic where people did feel alone.
They they were feeling very pressured

3066
00:58:27,910 --> 00:58:27,920
They they were feeling very pressured
 

3067
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,150
They they were feeling very pressured
and very isolated

3068
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:30,160
and very isolated
 

3069
00:58:30,160 --> 00:58:32,309
and very isolated
and uh when the freedom convoy happened,

3070
00:58:32,309 --> 00:58:32,319
and uh when the freedom convoy happened,
 

3071
00:58:32,319 --> 00:58:33,990
and uh when the freedom convoy happened,
it was like, "Oh my goodness, there are

3072
00:58:33,990 --> 00:58:34,000
it was like, "Oh my goodness, there are
 

3073
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,390
it was like, "Oh my goodness, there are
other people who think like me and there

3074
00:58:36,390 --> 00:58:36,400
other people who think like me and there
 

3075
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,470
other people who think like me and there
was a sense of community and

3076
00:58:38,470 --> 00:58:38,480
was a sense of community and
 

3077
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:41,109
was a sense of community and
camaraderie." So, um, it sounds to me

3078
00:58:41,109 --> 00:58:41,119
camaraderie." So, um, it sounds to me
 

3079
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:42,630
camaraderie." So, um, it sounds to me
like that's what we're you're trying to

3080
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:42,640
like that's what we're you're trying to
 

3081
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:44,390
like that's what we're you're trying to
recreate here is to give people that

3082
00:58:44,390 --> 00:58:44,400
recreate here is to give people that
 

3083
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,549
recreate here is to give people that
space to know they're not alone.

3084
00:58:46,549 --> 00:58:46,559
space to know they're not alone.
 

3085
00:58:46,559 --> 00:58:49,190
space to know they're not alone.
>> We're listening.

3086
00:58:49,190 --> 00:58:49,200
>> We're listening.
 

3087
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,670
>> We're listening.
>> You you can't recreate what they did.

3088
00:58:51,670 --> 00:58:51,680
>> You you can't recreate what they did.
 

3089
00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:54,470
>> You you can't recreate what they did.
Um, they they acted at at a time like I

3090
00:58:54,470 --> 00:58:54,480
Um, they they acted at at a time like I
 

3091
00:58:54,480 --> 00:58:57,910
Um, they they acted at at a time like I
remember I they gave me hope. So, I I'm

3092
00:58:57,910 --> 00:58:57,920
remember I they gave me hope. So, I I'm
 

3093
00:58:57,920 --> 00:59:00,230
remember I they gave me hope. So, I I'm
so I'm I will be thankful every day of

3094
00:59:00,230 --> 00:59:00,240
so I'm I will be thankful every day of
 

3095
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:02,950
so I'm I will be thankful every day of
my life for what the truckers did and

3096
00:59:02,950 --> 00:59:02,960
my life for what the truckers did and
 

3097
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,910
my life for what the truckers did and
the sacrifice that they made. Um, so I

3098
00:59:05,910 --> 00:59:05,920
the sacrifice that they made. Um, so I
 

3099
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:07,109
the sacrifice that they made. Um, so I
don't I don't want to make any

3100
00:59:07,109 --> 00:59:07,119
don't I don't want to make any
 

3101
00:59:07,119 --> 00:59:10,390
don't I don't want to make any
comparison. I just do know that that um

3102
00:59:10,390 --> 00:59:10,400
comparison. I just do know that that um
 

3103
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:13,109
comparison. I just do know that that um
that God's moving and he wants us in

3104
00:59:13,109 --> 00:59:13,119
that God's moving and he wants us in
 

3105
00:59:13,119 --> 00:59:15,349
that God's moving and he wants us in
Canada to come together again. And I

3106
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:15,359
Canada to come together again. And I
 

3107
00:59:15,359 --> 00:59:17,990
Canada to come together again. And I
believe that this is this is a start and

3108
00:59:17,990 --> 00:59:18,000
believe that this is this is a start and
 

3109
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,349
believe that this is this is a start and
I'd really invite everyone to

3110
00:59:19,349 --> 00:59:19,359
I'd really invite everyone to
 

3111
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:20,710
I'd really invite everyone to
participate.

3112
00:59:20,710 --> 00:59:20,720
participate.
 

3113
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,630
participate.
>> Amen to that. Well, thank you gentlemen

3114
00:59:22,630 --> 00:59:22,640
>> Amen to that. Well, thank you gentlemen
 

3115
00:59:22,640 --> 00:59:24,390
>> Amen to that. Well, thank you gentlemen
both for being with us today and for

3116
00:59:24,390 --> 00:59:24,400
both for being with us today and for
 

3117
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both for being with us today and for
sharing some information and we'll be

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sharing some information and we'll be
 

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sharing some information and we'll be
watching.

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watching.
 

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watching.
>> Thanks Nadine.

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>> Thanks Nadine.
 

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>> Thanks Nadine.
>> Thanks so much.

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>> Thanks so much.
 

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>> Thanks so much.
>> You're very welcome. Well, there you

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>> You're very welcome. Well, there you
 

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>> You're very welcome. Well, there you
have it everybody. The Allison inquiry.

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have it everybody. The Allison inquiry.
 

3129
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have it everybody. The Allison inquiry.
Please do check out the website. Please

3130
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Please do check out the website. Please
 

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Please do check out the website. Please
do check out follow along. Please do

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do check out follow along. Please do
 

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do check out follow along. Please do
participate. As Sean and NP De and

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participate. As Sean and NP De and
 

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participate. As Sean and NP De and
Allison have said, you know, there's no

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Allison have said, you know, there's no
 

3137
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Allison have said, you know, there's no
point in doing this if nobody is going

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point in doing this if nobody is going
 

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point in doing this if nobody is going
to listen, nobody wants to partake. Um,

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to listen, nobody wants to partake. Um,
 

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to listen, nobody wants to partake. Um,
it's very important that we continue the

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it's very important that we continue the
 

3143
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it's very important that we continue the
conversation and that we preserve and we

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conversation and that we preserve and we
 

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conversation and that we preserve and we
fight, we defend our right to have our

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fight, we defend our right to have our
 

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fight, we defend our right to have our
voices heard, especially when it comes

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voices heard, especially when it comes
 

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voices heard, especially when it comes
to our government officials. Um, there's

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to our government officials. Um, there's
 

3151
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to our government officials. Um, there's
been harms that have been done here.

3152
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been harms that have been done here.
 

3153
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been harms that have been done here.
It's important to know who's

3154
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:07,440
It's important to know who's
 

3155
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It's important to know who's
responsible, you know, for some of these

3156
01:00:09,510 --> 01:00:09,520
responsible, you know, for some of these
 

3157
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responsible, you know, for some of these
harms and there's programs out there

3158
01:00:11,510 --> 01:00:11,520
harms and there's programs out there
 

3159
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harms and there's programs out there
that are available that Canadians are

3160
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that are available that Canadians are
 

3161
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,430
that are available that Canadians are
not even aware of. So, that in and of

3162
01:00:15,430 --> 01:00:15,440
not even aware of. So, that in and of
 

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not even aware of. So, that in and of
itself tells you some of the issues that

3164
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itself tells you some of the issues that
 

3165
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,510
itself tells you some of the issues that
we have to address here. So, anyway, I

3166
01:00:19,510 --> 01:00:19,520
we have to address here. So, anyway, I
 

3167
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we have to address here. So, anyway, I
want to say thank you all for listening.

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01:00:21,030 --> 01:00:21,040
want to say thank you all for listening.
 

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01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,589
want to say thank you all for listening.
Please do like, please do share. Again,

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01:00:23,589 --> 01:00:23,599
Please do like, please do share. Again,
 

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Please do like, please do share. Again,
I can do these all day, but if nobody

3172
01:00:25,829 --> 01:00:25,839
I can do these all day, but if nobody
 

3173
01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:27,910
I can do these all day, but if nobody
shares them, if nobody, you know, uh,

3174
01:00:27,910 --> 01:00:27,920
shares them, if nobody, you know, uh,
 

3175
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shares them, if nobody, you know, uh,
gets involved, likes them, send them to

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01:00:29,829 --> 01:00:29,839
gets involved, likes them, send them to
 

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01:00:29,839 --> 01:00:31,670
gets involved, likes them, send them to
friends, send them family. Um, say,

3178
01:00:31,670 --> 01:00:31,680
friends, send them family. Um, say,
 

3179
01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,910
friends, send them family. Um, say,
"Hey, check this out." And so please do

3180
01:00:33,910 --> 01:00:33,920
"Hey, check this out." And so please do
 

3181
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,109
"Hey, check this out." And so please do
like, please do share, please do

3182
01:00:35,109 --> 01:00:35,119
like, please do share, please do
 

3183
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:37,510
like, please do share, please do
subscribe to the channel and uh leave us

3184
01:00:37,510 --> 01:00:37,520
subscribe to the channel and uh leave us
 

3185
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subscribe to the channel and uh leave us
your comments. God bless you all.